I'm asking for some input. I just connected some ideas relating to the archaic use of belts:
Indian guy climbing tall coconut tree with ankles bound, crawling like an 'inchworm' up the tree. (30 sec. video) [When in Malaysia, I tried climbing a coconut palm but failed, I hadn't known this trick.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgW-926XtFs&feature=related
Chinese girl swimming dolphin-style with ankles bound so as to allow 'dolphin tail' undulations.
http://the-arc-ddeden.blogspot.com/2007/10/10-year-old-chinese-girl-dolphin.html
[River dolphins in Yangtze river, dugongs as visual model for early human swimmers?]
Wrist bracelets/necklaces/vests/skirts with shells, beads, holed coins as visible wealth and counters (primitive abacus/calendar such as a thread bracelet with 28 beads to represent lunar month).
Diving belt: kelp/vine/water lily stem or folded cloth sarong (linen/silk/palm fiber/pounded tree bark (tapa cloth of Hawaii/Samoa); wrapped (rappel?) / lashed (leash?) around belly/shoulders/calves (depending on function)
-notched & clipped mongongo or salt-crusted mangrove leaves for hut shingles (origin of salt trade, barter gift exchange between women who constructed their own dome huts)
-net (or skin) bag/basket clipped/strung to belt to hold foods/shells or as woven or inflated floating basket
-used around calves as coconut palm climbing strap (cloth tube sarong not knotted, depends on fiber friction)
-used around ankles as dolphin tail for more efficient long-term swimming (not short dives)
-used as baby backpack (I saw an Indonesian woman swaddle her infant in a square cloth, piggy-back style, then easily switch to nursing postion, far more simply practical than today's baby backpacks)
-used to hold short sharp (bamboo) stick spear/prybar and flint/razorclam blade, hand-axe holder/handle/hook while swimming/climbing/walking to keep hands and legs free for movements.
-AmerIndians used wampum belts of shells on strings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wampum
for quipu, tokens and memory devices, highly valued. Other materials used porcupine quills. pounded goldleaf etc.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAT/message/364
-possibly after deep dive descent (while negatively buoyant) a (woven short sarong/skirt) could open parachute-like between ascending strokes to slow descent and then close during each arm/leg stroke phase to allow faster ascent. (from DeeperBlue.com message: This is how a dive works: Because of the air in our lungs, we are buoyant on the surface and remain so until about fifteen metres. The weight that a constant-weight diver wears around the neck helps him or her overcome the resistance at this depth. (Campbell wears about four pounds.) Between fifteen and thirty metres, most people are neutrally buoyant, and after thirty metres they are negatively buoyant, which means they sink. "Deeper than thirty metres, nobody swims," Marco Nones, a dive instructor in Sharm al-Sheikh, told me. "Fall down, fall down. Every diver slips." At the bottom of a deep dive, a diver is very heavy, because the lungs are so radically contracted. To return to neutral buoyancy, he must labor against this. Sometimes, on no-fins dives, he actually sinks while gliding between strokes and has to work to recover lost ground.
http://forums.deeperblue.com/general-freediving/84091-deepest-dive-new-yorker-article-sara-campbell.html.
When ascending at depth, one can't just propel up, one must brake downwards gravity effect, to stop sliding back down. This is like climbing a coconut palm tree without a foot strap, one tends to slip downwards after each step up, unlike climbing a ladder where you ratchet upwards each step and can't sink down (more like wearing long fins or monofin). One must brake the fall between strokes while allowing the glide up.
Any momentary rest, one must slow the descent by parachuting like a jellyfish*, or by becoming more horizontal. Probably spiral climbing is more efficient, like a tight corkscrew, each hand stroke vertically pulled down and pushed down but finished with horizontal outward flick to brake a second, then pulling hands inwards (and downwards slightly) and then forwards smoothly along body to far front and flick out hands again to brake before doing another stroke.
DDeden
Wednesday, April 25, 2012
Thursday, April 19, 2012
wechsel / exchange/period counts?
DD: planets "wander", English-Dutch "week" ~ wander/vika/weave back & forth/via/vector/vaya.
eurologistApr 15, 2012 03:13 AM
"week" has nothing to do with "wander" - instead, it is related to the Germanic word for "change" - still surviving in the German word "Wechsel" with the same meaning. It refers to the periodic changeover of planet-gods that watched over specific days of the week. See also the Latin word "vices" with the same meaning.
a comment from Maju: "astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
Eka (line, digit, ichi), Weka/Ueka/Vika (reciprocal way), Weba (weave, inter-digit)
Eusk: nekaz - furrow/track
Etrusk: ? - ?
Rusk: lehka - furrow/track
Prush: wechsal - animal trail
Fris.: ? - ?
Britsh: last - follow furrow/foot form http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=last
Gaelic: traict - shore trace
Week: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=week
Furrow: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=furrow&searchmode=none
First: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=first&searchmode=none
Reciprocal: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=reciprocal&allowed_in_frame=0
Arabic: Wahad - one, Yom Ahad - first day (Sunday)
Compare Wahad to Wechsal, Vaya, Week, Woch
Etruscan furrow: From VIIe century, the Etruscan ships furrow the Tyrrhenian Sea
the Etruscan ritual books (see p. 270). A peasant of Tar- quinia is said to have
been ploughing a field when he turned up in his furrow a miraculous being (child)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tages
http://iof3.idrottonline.se/SvenskaSkidskytteforbundet/ARBETSRUM/WorldCupOstersund-ENGLISH/Visitors1/ExchangeWechselCambio/
The German word wechsel (from wechsal: animal trail) means reciprocal exchange, eg. exchanging currency between two people.
exchange (n.) : late 14c., "act of reciprocal giving and receiving," from Anglo-Fr. eschaunge, from O.Fr. eschange (Mod.Fr. échange), from L.L. excambium, from excambiare, from L. ex- "out" (see ex-) + cambire "barter" (see change).
exchange (v.) : late 15c., from O.Fr. eschangier "exchange, barter," from V.L. *excambiare (cf. It. scambiare); see exchange (n.).
Denver: "ford or passage used by the Danes," from O.E. Dena (gen. pl.) + fær.
camber : 1610s, nautical term, from O.Fr. cambre, chambre "bent," from L. camurum (nom. camur) "crooked, arched;"
Cambio: Of Celtic origin, from Proto-Celtic *kamb- (“crooked, bent”), from Proto-Indo-European *(s)ḱamb-, *(s)kamb- (“crooked”). Cognate with Old Irish camm (“crooked”), Welsh cam (“crooked”), Breton kamm (“crooked”), Old High German skimph (“joke, amusement, pastime”), Swedish skumpa (“to limp”). More at change.
Change: Via Middle English, from Old French changier, compare French changer, from Latin cambiō (“exchange, barter”). Cognate with Italian cambiare, Portuguese cambiar, Romanian schimb, Spanish cambiar. Used in English since the 13th Century.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cashier (Hebrew: qupa'y cf quba/qufa/sukha/chuppa, stall/store) Cash changer works at a till or receiving payments (note till/thill/tillerudder-furrowmaker/changemaker) [Cashier is tamil]
Originally, exchange gift/barter was "meiy" http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/etymology.cgi?single=1&basename=/data/ie/baltet&text_number=++1043&root=config&encoding=utf-eng unrelated to later change/exchange from cambio/wechsel/furrow
If musical chords may be formed by raising (major) or lowering (minor) the fifth a whole step, they may also be formed by lowering (major) or raising (minor) the root a half-step to wechsel (step-change), the leading tone or leitton.
מענה, a furrow, as in Psalm 129:3, is in the absolute state instead of the construct, because several nouns follow in the construct state (cf. Ewald, 291, a.). צמד, lit. things bound together, then a pair; here it signifies a pair or yoke of oxen, but in the transferred sense of a piece of land that could be ploughed in one morning with a yoke of oxen, like the Latin jugum, jugerum. It is called the furrow of an acre of land, because the length only of half an acre of land was to be given, and not the breadth or the entire circumference.. This was a space of ground which the Romans call "actus", a measure of land one hundred and twenty feet square, which being doubled made an acre, called by them "jugerum", being as much as a yoke of oxen could plough in one day. is supposed by some (p) to be the length of one furrow; but if so, it must be a circular furrow; so much ground was given to Horatius Cocles as could be ploughed round about in one day
http://www.maravot.com/Indo-European_Table1A.html
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Latin : vices (“in place of”) cf ["follows in order/trail"]
Danish: vice last
German: vice Laster
Polish: vices wada (pl) f.
Romanian: vice viciu
Sanskrit: vice व्यसन (sa) (vyasana-) n.
Spanish: vicio (es) m.
Swedish: last (sv)
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/truck (not 1st etym. which is for tricked)
truck (v.) "to exchange, barter," early 13c., from O.N.Fr. troquer "to barter, exchange," from M.L. trocare "barter," of unknown origin.
tract (1) "area," late 15c., "period or lapse of time," from L. tractus "track, course, space, duration," lit, "a drawing out or pulling," from stem of trahere "to pull, draw," from PIE root *tragh- "to draw, drag, move" (cf. Slovenian trag "trace, track," M.Ir. tragud "ebb," perhaps with a variant form *dhragh-; see drag).
drag: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=drag&allowed_in_frame=0
wag/weg/wagon: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=wag&searchmode=none
midway: O.E. mid-weg "the middle of a way or distance."
wain/wayne: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wain&allowed_in_frame=0
planet: late O.E., from O.Fr. planete (Fr. planète), from L.L. planeta, from Gk. (asteres) planetai "wandering (stars)," from planasthai "to wander," of unknown origin. So called because they have apparent motion, unlike the "fixed" stars. Originally including also the moon and sun
weave (v.) O.E. wefan "form by interlacing yarn" (class V strong verb; past tense wæf, pp. wefen), from P.Gmc. *webanan (cf. O.N. vefa, M.L.G., M.Du., Du. weven, O.H.G. weban, Ger. weben "to weave"), from PIE *webh-/*wobh- (cf. Skt. ubhnati "he laces together," Pers. baftan "to weave," Gk. hyphe "web").
weft O.E. weft, wefta, from wefan "to weave", woof
warp (n.) "threads running lengthwise in a fabric," O.E. wearp-, from P.Gmc. *warpo- (cf. M.L.G. warp, O.H.G. warf "warp," O.N. varp "cast of a net"), from root *werp- (see warp (v.)). The warp of fabric is that across which the woof is "thrown." Applied in 20c. astrophysics to the "fabric" of space-time, popularized in noun phrase warp speed by 1960s TV series "Star Trek." warp (v.) "to bend, twist, distort," O.E. weorpan "to throw, throw away, hit with a missile," from P.Gmc. *werpanan "to fling by turning the arm" (cf. O.S. werpan, O.N. verpa "to throw," Swed. värpa "to lay eggs," O.Fris. werpa, M.L.G., Du. werpen, Ger. werfen, Goth. wairpan "to throw"), from PIE *werb- "to turn, bend" (cf. L. verber "whip, rod;" Gk. rhabdos "rod," rhombos "magic wheel"), from root *wer- "to turn, bend" (see versus).
web O.E. webb "woven fabric," from P.Gmc. *wabjan (cf. O.S. webbi, O.N. vefr, Du. webbe, O.H.G. weppi, Ger. gewebe "web"), from PIE *webh-
orbita: "wheel track, rut" (orbit of eye)
orb: early 15c. (implied in orbicular), "sphere, globe," also "emblem of sovereignty," from O.Fr. orbe (13c.), from L. orbem (nom. orbis) "circle, disk, ring," probably related to orbita "wheel track, rut," of unknown origin. Some suggest a connection with the root of orchid (q.v.). A three-dimensional extension of a word originally describing two-dimensional shapes.
calibrate: from Arabic qalib "a mold for casting." [hand + librt?]
calendar
teller/ tell (v.) O.E. tellan "to reckon, calculate, consider, account," from P.Gmc. *taljanan "to mention in order" (cf. O.S. tellian, O.N. telja, O.Fris. tella "to count, tell," Du. tellen "to count, reckon," O.S. talon "to count, reckon," Dan. tale "to speak," O.H.G. zalon, Ger. zählen "to count, reckon"), from root *talo (see tale). [talk?] talo from PIE root *del- "to recount, count." The secondary English sense of "number, numerical reckoning" (c.1200) probably was the primary one in Germanic; cf. teller (see tell) and O.Fris. tale, M.Du. tal "number," O.S. tala "number," O.H.G. zala, Ger. Zahl "number."
tiller: originally "weaver's beam," from M.L. telarium, from L. tela "web, loom," from PIE *teks-la-, from root *teks- "to weave" (see texture).
L. colonus "tiller of the soil, farmer"
tile (n.) O.E. tigele "roofing shingle," from W.Gmc. *tegala (cf. O.H.G. ziagal, Ger. ziegel, Du. tegel, O.N. tigl), a borrowing from L. tegula "tile" (cf. It. tegola, Fr. tuile), from tegere "roof, to cover" (see stegosaurus). Also used in O.E. and early M.E. for "brick,"
shell (n.) O.E. sciell, scill, Anglian scell "seashell, eggshell," related to O.E. scealu "shell, husk," from P.Gmc. *skaljo "divide, separate" (cf. W.Fris. skyl "peel, rind," M.L.G. schelle "pod, rind, egg shell," Goth. skalja "tile"), with the notion of "covering that splits off," from PIE root *(s)kel- "to cut, cleave" (cf. O.C.S. skolika "shell," Rus. skala "bark").
shingle (1) "thin piece of wood," c.1200, scincle, from L.L. scindula, altered (by influence of Gk. schidax "lath" or schindalmos "splinter") from L. scandula "roof tile," from scindere "to cleave, split," from PIE root *sked- "to split."
place (n.) O.E. "open space in a city, market place, square," from O.Fr. place, from M.L. placea "place, spot," from L. platea "courtyard, open space, broad street," from Gk. plateia (hodos) "broad (way)," fem. of platys "broad," from PIE *plat- "to spread" (cf. Skt. prathati "spreads out;" Hitt. palhi "broad;" Lith. platus "broad;" Ger. Fladen "flat cake;" O.Ir. lethan "broad"); extended variant form of root *pele- (see plane (1)).
order (n.) from L. ordinem (nom. ordo) "row, rank, series, arrangement," originally "a row of threads in a loom," from Italic root *ored(h)- "to arrange, arrangement" (cf. ordiri "to begin to weave," e.g. in primordial), of unknown origin.
compare ord to ard (early scratch plow) & adze
compare shoe last axe to wedge/wicker/week/work/furrow/drain ditch
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0390.2007.00100.x/pdf
(used in gardens 5ka, wells available, loess soil, middle Danube)
The Jesuit missionaries in the new world produced a map of Lake Superior using canoe strokes to measure distances, would these be equal to vika oar changes, to measure both time and distance? (furrow/week as period) http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=39791
http://carljweber.com/ellingtonstone.htm stone indicating jesuits in south Ill.
eurologistApr 15, 2012 03:13 AM
"week" has nothing to do with "wander" - instead, it is related to the Germanic word for "change" - still surviving in the German word "Wechsel" with the same meaning. It refers to the periodic changeover of planet-gods that watched over specific days of the week. See also the Latin word "vices" with the same meaning.
a comment from Maju: "astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
Eka (line, digit, ichi), Weka/Ueka/Vika (reciprocal way), Weba (weave, inter-digit)
Eusk: nekaz - furrow/track
Etrusk: ? - ?
Rusk: lehka - furrow/track
Prush: wechsal - animal trail
Fris.: ? - ?
Britsh: last - follow furrow/foot form http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=last
Gaelic: traict - shore trace
Week: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=week
Furrow: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=furrow&searchmode=none
First: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=first&searchmode=none
Reciprocal: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=reciprocal&allowed_in_frame=0
Arabic: Wahad - one, Yom Ahad - first day (Sunday)
Compare Wahad to Wechsal, Vaya, Week, Woch
Etruscan furrow: From VIIe century, the Etruscan ships furrow the Tyrrhenian Sea
the Etruscan ritual books (see p. 270). A peasant of Tar- quinia is said to have
been ploughing a field when he turned up in his furrow a miraculous being (child)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tages
http://iof3.idrottonline.se/SvenskaSkidskytteforbundet/ARBETSRUM/WorldCupOstersund-ENGLISH/Visitors1/ExchangeWechselCambio/
The German word wechsel (from wechsal: animal trail) means reciprocal exchange, eg. exchanging currency between two people.
exchange (n.) : late 14c., "act of reciprocal giving and receiving," from Anglo-Fr. eschaunge, from O.Fr. eschange (Mod.Fr. échange), from L.L. excambium, from excambiare, from L. ex- "out" (see ex-) + cambire "barter" (see change).
exchange (v.) : late 15c., from O.Fr. eschangier "exchange, barter," from V.L. *excambiare (cf. It. scambiare); see exchange (n.).
Denver: "ford or passage used by the Danes," from O.E. Dena (gen. pl.) + fær.
camber : 1610s, nautical term, from O.Fr. cambre, chambre "bent," from L. camurum (nom. camur) "crooked, arched;"
Cambio: Of Celtic origin, from Proto-Celtic *kamb- (“crooked, bent”), from Proto-Indo-European *(s)ḱamb-, *(s)kamb- (“crooked”). Cognate with Old Irish camm (“crooked”), Welsh cam (“crooked”), Breton kamm (“crooked”), Old High German skimph (“joke, amusement, pastime”), Swedish skumpa (“to limp”). More at change.
Change: Via Middle English, from Old French changier, compare French changer, from Latin cambiō (“exchange, barter”). Cognate with Italian cambiare, Portuguese cambiar, Romanian schimb, Spanish cambiar. Used in English since the 13th Century.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cashier (Hebrew: qupa'y cf quba/qufa/sukha/chuppa, stall/store) Cash changer works at a till or receiving payments (note till/thill/tillerudder-furrowmaker/changemaker) [Cashier is tamil]
Originally, exchange gift/barter was "meiy" http://starling.rinet.ru/cgi-bin/etymology.cgi?single=1&basename=/data/ie/baltet&text_number=++1043&root=config&encoding=utf-eng unrelated to later change/exchange from cambio/wechsel/furrow
If musical chords may be formed by raising (major) or lowering (minor) the fifth a whole step, they may also be formed by lowering (major) or raising (minor) the root a half-step to wechsel (step-change), the leading tone or leitton.
מענה, a furrow, as in Psalm 129:3, is in the absolute state instead of the construct, because several nouns follow in the construct state (cf. Ewald, 291, a.). צמד, lit. things bound together, then a pair; here it signifies a pair or yoke of oxen, but in the transferred sense of a piece of land that could be ploughed in one morning with a yoke of oxen, like the Latin jugum, jugerum. It is called the furrow of an acre of land, because the length only of half an acre of land was to be given, and not the breadth or the entire circumference.. This was a space of ground which the Romans call "actus", a measure of land one hundred and twenty feet square, which being doubled made an acre, called by them "jugerum", being as much as a yoke of oxen could plough in one day. is supposed by some (p) to be the length of one furrow; but if so, it must be a circular furrow; so much ground was given to Horatius Cocles as could be ploughed round about in one day
http://www.maravot.com/Indo-European_Table1A.html
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Latin : vices (“in place of”) cf ["follows in order/trail"]
Danish: vice last
German: vice Laster
Polish: vices wada (pl) f.
Romanian: vice viciu
Sanskrit: vice व्यसन (sa) (vyasana-) n.
Spanish: vicio (es) m.
Swedish: last (sv)
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/truck (not 1st etym. which is for tricked)
truck (v.) "to exchange, barter," early 13c., from O.N.Fr. troquer "to barter, exchange," from M.L. trocare "barter," of unknown origin.
tract (1) "area," late 15c., "period or lapse of time," from L. tractus "track, course, space, duration," lit, "a drawing out or pulling," from stem of trahere "to pull, draw," from PIE root *tragh- "to draw, drag, move" (cf. Slovenian trag "trace, track," M.Ir. tragud "ebb," perhaps with a variant form *dhragh-; see drag).
drag: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=drag&allowed_in_frame=0
wag/weg/wagon: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=wag&searchmode=none
midway: O.E. mid-weg "the middle of a way or distance."
wain/wayne: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=wain&allowed_in_frame=0
planet: late O.E., from O.Fr. planete (Fr. planète), from L.L. planeta, from Gk. (asteres) planetai "wandering (stars)," from planasthai "to wander," of unknown origin. So called because they have apparent motion, unlike the "fixed" stars. Originally including also the moon and sun
weave (v.) O.E. wefan "form by interlacing yarn" (class V strong verb; past tense wæf, pp. wefen), from P.Gmc. *webanan (cf. O.N. vefa, M.L.G., M.Du., Du. weven, O.H.G. weban, Ger. weben "to weave"), from PIE *webh-/*wobh- (cf. Skt. ubhnati "he laces together," Pers. baftan "to weave," Gk. hyphe "web").
weft O.E. weft, wefta, from wefan "to weave", woof
warp (n.) "threads running lengthwise in a fabric," O.E. wearp-, from P.Gmc. *warpo- (cf. M.L.G. warp, O.H.G. warf "warp," O.N. varp "cast of a net"), from root *werp- (see warp (v.)). The warp of fabric is that across which the woof is "thrown." Applied in 20c. astrophysics to the "fabric" of space-time, popularized in noun phrase warp speed by 1960s TV series "Star Trek." warp (v.) "to bend, twist, distort," O.E. weorpan "to throw, throw away, hit with a missile," from P.Gmc. *werpanan "to fling by turning the arm" (cf. O.S. werpan, O.N. verpa "to throw," Swed. värpa "to lay eggs," O.Fris. werpa, M.L.G., Du. werpen, Ger. werfen, Goth. wairpan "to throw"), from PIE *werb- "to turn, bend" (cf. L. verber "whip, rod;" Gk. rhabdos "rod," rhombos "magic wheel"), from root *wer- "to turn, bend" (see versus).
web O.E. webb "woven fabric," from P.Gmc. *wabjan (cf. O.S. webbi, O.N. vefr, Du. webbe, O.H.G. weppi, Ger. gewebe "web"), from PIE *webh-
orbita: "wheel track, rut" (orbit of eye)
orb: early 15c. (implied in orbicular), "sphere, globe," also "emblem of sovereignty," from O.Fr. orbe (13c.), from L. orbem (nom. orbis) "circle, disk, ring," probably related to orbita "wheel track, rut," of unknown origin. Some suggest a connection with the root of orchid (q.v.). A three-dimensional extension of a word originally describing two-dimensional shapes.
calibrate: from Arabic qalib "a mold for casting." [hand + librt?]
calendar
teller/ tell (v.) O.E. tellan "to reckon, calculate, consider, account," from P.Gmc. *taljanan "to mention in order" (cf. O.S. tellian, O.N. telja, O.Fris. tella "to count, tell," Du. tellen "to count, reckon," O.S. talon "to count, reckon," Dan. tale "to speak," O.H.G. zalon, Ger. zählen "to count, reckon"), from root *talo (see tale). [talk?] talo from PIE root *del- "to recount, count." The secondary English sense of "number, numerical reckoning" (c.1200) probably was the primary one in Germanic; cf. teller (see tell) and O.Fris. tale, M.Du. tal "number," O.S. tala "number," O.H.G. zala, Ger. Zahl "number."
tiller: originally "weaver's beam," from M.L. telarium, from L. tela "web, loom," from PIE *teks-la-, from root *teks- "to weave" (see texture).
L. colonus "tiller of the soil, farmer"
tile (n.) O.E. tigele "roofing shingle," from W.Gmc. *tegala (cf. O.H.G. ziagal, Ger. ziegel, Du. tegel, O.N. tigl), a borrowing from L. tegula "tile" (cf. It. tegola, Fr. tuile), from tegere "roof, to cover" (see stegosaurus). Also used in O.E. and early M.E. for "brick,"
shell (n.) O.E. sciell, scill, Anglian scell "seashell, eggshell," related to O.E. scealu "shell, husk," from P.Gmc. *skaljo "divide, separate" (cf. W.Fris. skyl "peel, rind," M.L.G. schelle "pod, rind, egg shell," Goth. skalja "tile"), with the notion of "covering that splits off," from PIE root *(s)kel- "to cut, cleave" (cf. O.C.S. skolika "shell," Rus. skala "bark").
shingle (1) "thin piece of wood," c.1200, scincle, from L.L. scindula, altered (by influence of Gk. schidax "lath" or schindalmos "splinter") from L. scandula "roof tile," from scindere "to cleave, split," from PIE root *sked- "to split."
place (n.) O.E. "open space in a city, market place, square," from O.Fr. place, from M.L. placea "place, spot," from L. platea "courtyard, open space, broad street," from Gk. plateia (hodos) "broad (way)," fem. of platys "broad," from PIE *plat- "to spread" (cf. Skt. prathati "spreads out;" Hitt. palhi "broad;" Lith. platus "broad;" Ger. Fladen "flat cake;" O.Ir. lethan "broad"); extended variant form of root *pele- (see plane (1)).
order (n.) from L. ordinem (nom. ordo) "row, rank, series, arrangement," originally "a row of threads in a loom," from Italic root *ored(h)- "to arrange, arrangement" (cf. ordiri "to begin to weave," e.g. in primordial), of unknown origin.
compare ord to ard (early scratch plow) & adze
compare shoe last axe to wedge/wicker/week/work/furrow/drain ditch
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1600-0390.2007.00100.x/pdf
(used in gardens 5ka, wells available, loess soil, middle Danube)
The Jesuit missionaries in the new world produced a map of Lake Superior using canoe strokes to measure distances, would these be equal to vika oar changes, to measure both time and distance? (furrow/week as period) http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/whi/fullimage.asp?id=39791
http://carljweber.com/ellingtonstone.htm stone indicating jesuits in south Ill.
Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Paddle, tattoo, design
http://sciencenordic.com/organic-tools-found-stone-age-camp
see the photo of the black marks on the paddle (3 on top, 3 on bottom), compare to
Otzi the ice man's tattoos: medical treatment for lyme disease arthritis
http://www.tattoosymbol.com/bodymod/03-otzi.jpg
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/07/17/iceman-tattoos.html
My diagnosis: the black marks refer to "flow", the power of water flowing (rapids, waterfalls, dams).
Compare: week(from wehsal-track-furrow)-furrow-perau(Malay canoe)-plow, shoe-last axe,
The agricultural arrival in southern Scandinavia thus appears sharp. Gradualist views of Late Mesolithic developments can be discounted despite the spread of shoe-last axes beyond the farming frontier. Western Norway presents a similar pattern: axes and ceramics were in circulation for over a millennium beyond the farming boundary.
This farming spread must have been by boat. There were no native aurochs on Zealand (Aaris-Sorensen 1980), so the early cattle at Akonge were definitely imported. Farther north, agriculture was probably carried by boat up the coasts, an easier method of travel than overland (see above). Baltic crossings would require longer open-water voyages than in the Cardial or LBK. Irish curraghs can, however, make substantial voyages and weather considerable seas (Hornell 1938, sec. 5:17–21), and a large one has even crossed the Atlantic (Severin 1978).
Old map legends may have similar symbols for river cataracts, canals etc.
Compare also to number systems ||| = = /// etc.
see the photo of the black marks on the paddle (3 on top, 3 on bottom), compare to
Otzi the ice man's tattoos: medical treatment for lyme disease arthritis
http://www.tattoosymbol.com/bodymod/03-otzi.jpg
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/07/17/iceman-tattoos.html
My diagnosis: the black marks refer to "flow", the power of water flowing (rapids, waterfalls, dams).
Compare: week(from wehsal-track-furrow)-furrow-perau(Malay canoe)-plow, shoe-last axe,
The agricultural arrival in southern Scandinavia thus appears sharp. Gradualist views of Late Mesolithic developments can be discounted despite the spread of shoe-last axes beyond the farming frontier. Western Norway presents a similar pattern: axes and ceramics were in circulation for over a millennium beyond the farming boundary.
This farming spread must have been by boat. There were no native aurochs on Zealand (Aaris-Sorensen 1980), so the early cattle at Akonge were definitely imported. Farther north, agriculture was probably carried by boat up the coasts, an easier method of travel than overland (see above). Baltic crossings would require longer open-water voyages than in the Cardial or LBK. Irish curraghs can, however, make substantial voyages and weather considerable seas (Hornell 1938, sec. 5:17–21), and a large one has even crossed the Atlantic (Severin 1978).
Old map legends may have similar symbols for river cataracts, canals etc.
Compare also to number systems ||| = = /// etc.
Monday, April 16, 2012
dogs, combs vs domes/bowls
Ancient comb in Germany has rune writing: Kama = comb
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120413-41929.html
Oldest runes are 150AD, I think they correlate to Sumerian writing but only used on tree bark so not preseerved.
Compare kama/comb to Dutch kom/bowl, tum/dome = entomb/endom
see earlier post, komatic = innuit dog sled, cf atim = Cree dog/dragger
Dog domestication may have helped modern humans (AMH) to displace neanderthals:
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/do-the-eyes-have-it
and my comment about dog words:
http://anthropology.net/2010/02/22/gobekli-tepe-temple-in-turkey-predates-the-pyramids-of-giza/#comment-32874
http://www.thelocal.de/national/20120413-41929.html
Oldest runes are 150AD, I think they correlate to Sumerian writing but only used on tree bark so not preseerved.
Compare kama/comb to Dutch kom/bowl, tum/dome = entomb/endom
see earlier post, komatic = innuit dog sled, cf atim = Cree dog/dragger
Dog domestication may have helped modern humans (AMH) to displace neanderthals:
http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/do-the-eyes-have-it
and my comment about dog words:
http://anthropology.net/2010/02/22/gobekli-tepe-temple-in-turkey-predates-the-pyramids-of-giza/#comment-32874
Saturday, April 14, 2012
week
The seven day circle, by Eviatar Zerubavel, explains the root of the modern 7 day circular week as being derived from the Jewish Sabbath tradition being a cultural artifact rather than a natural observation (such as the lunar month or diurnal year), producing a pulse effect (one special day per period, a peak of the week), as opposed to the Chaldean 7 day week which was aligned to the 7 "wandering stars/planets" which had no significant peak. I think both Chaldean/Babylonian astrological and Jewish temporal divisional/divinity weeks came from earlier African early agriculture market gatherings (pasar) which split the seasons into smaller quasi-regular periods, which then adapted to Egyptian/Ethiopian/Sabaan local social caravan trade environments where they were partially aligned with the lunar month which was highly significant to long distance trade (eg. frankincense, salt) where desert travel in mid-day heat was impossible before camels were domesticated.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Seven_Day_Circle.html?id=Cd5ZjRsNj4sC
Ainu - Utari [Arab: ain=wellspring, Grk: ydr & Skt: udr/utar=water]
Basque - Euskara [skal ~ chal/hald/high]
Sun/Sunday: Basque (Igandea: high, related to Tamil kandi: high and Chaldean Haldi: heavenly) relates to peak/pulse of week), Albanian: e diele.
Moon/Monday: Basque (astel ehena) maybe links to Albanian (e Hene/moon) [astel - astro-star-ishtar], both related to Hebrew sheni and Arab ithnin.
week: Dutch: week. Chaldean/Armenian: shabat/shapti, Hebrew: shavua, Persian: shambah, German: woch, Finnish: viikko, Lapp: wakko
Week relates to vector/vika/weave/vaya/wicker/way, in alternation of travel, that is back and forth in a repeated sequence of circular-temporal but linear-spatial fashion.
Ancient Egypt deified the sun and mostly ignored the moon in calenders because they were entirely Nile based, whose flow came from far south Sudan. They had 3 10-day weeks per month but used a perfect harmony of 36 constellations to match 36 weeks of the calendar, rather than lunar matching."The rise of the Sabbath cult in Judaism coincided with the withdrawal from worshipping the celestial bodies, and particularly the moon. In other words, the dissociation of the week from a natural cycle such as the waxing and waning of the moon can be seen as part of a general movement toward introducing a supranatural deity... untouched by nature in any way".
Also see my post on ancient calenders: http://the-arc-ddeden.blogspot.com.au/2010/02/shared-traits.html
Update:
Basque: nekaz = (low) furrow (of week); Igandea = high (peak of week)
[nekaz also means farming/cultivation, but originated from track, same as English and Norse "last"]
Compare these parallels: from nek|az (furrow) to az|ken (plow-follow a furrow) and en|autsi (say) to esa|n (say); in both, one syllable reverses while the other shifts. (During shifts and reversals, syllables often change sound slightly, eg. itsa to esa) to smooth speed/temper of speaking.)
http://www.aixerrotabhi.net/eusk/curriculumat/euskara/euskararenhistoria1_4.pdf
Russian: Lekha = furrow (confirmedby Vlad)
Scot. lireag = fallow ridge
Latin: lira = footprint
Basque days of the week: (from Buber)
Monday Astelehen/a (aste=week, lehen=first)
Tuesday Astearte/a (aste= week, arte = middle, mid of wk)
Wednesday Asteazken/a (aste=week, asken=last, last of wk)
Thursday Ostegun/a (day after the week is over (egun=day, oste=after)
Friday Ostiral/a (?)
Saturday Larunbat/a (bat = 1)
Sunday Igande/a (high)
http://www.buber.net/Basque/Euskara/days.html
etxe bat 'a house'
bi etxe `two houses'
etxe asko `many houses'
etxea `the house'
etxeak `the houses'
etxe zuria `the white house'
etxe zuriak `the white houses'
Aquitaine: Osso-, Basque. otso `wolf'.
Basque numbers 123 bat, bi, hiru or eka, bi, hiru
1 bat - badeh 11 hamaika ~ hameka
2 bi ~ bideh (twinen) 12 hamabi
3 hiru ~ thirur(thelatha) 13 hamahiru ~ hamahirur
4 lau ~ laur (kwror?)14 hamalau ~ hamalaur
5 bost ~ bortz 15 hamabost ~ hamabortz
6 sei 16 hamasei
7 zazpi 17 hamazazpi
8 zortzi 18 hemezortzi
9 bederatzi 19 hemeretzi
10 hamar 20 hogei
Compare to Arabic/Hebrew numbers:
1 wahad sunday=ahad
2 thenin/(twinin)/isnin
3 thalatha/(thrtha) selasa
4 arbu/wednesday = rabu
5 hamse/khamis cf panca/panj/pent so panchams?
6 sit ueh jumaat
7 shab et/sabtu (Heb shavua week, shabath sat.)
Albanian numbers: 123 nje, dy, tre
Basque months are cultivation-vegetation oriented, so furrow fits
montaine Basque - Sunday Igandea high to Wednesday midweek low furrow nekaz
lowland (Dutch &) English - Wednesday midweek "hump"
English "last" means both la(te)st and track/furrow (probably related to the last of a shoe in some way).
Long before there were names for planet gods, there was weaving (all great apes weave their bowl nests, probably for 10+ million years), very likely earliest Hs were weavers with associated words. Weaving back and forth produces rows and columns, similar to the Chemistry periodic table or the weekly/monthly calendar.
I left a comment at Maju's blog, thus begetting a dialogue which I copy here, specifically because he has said he will delete my comments there, and I don't want to lose the terms and definitions. Because I'm am always so hurried online, I copy it directly and analyse later the specifics. http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2012/04/claim-that-japanese-are-60-72-neolithic.html?showComment=1334677027111
MajuApr 14, 2012 09:41 AM
A bunch of amateurish pseudoscientific junk, sorry. The first thing you could do is to check etymologies or in the case of astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows).
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DDedenApr 14, 2012 11:25 AM
"A bunch of amateurish pseudoscientific junk, sorry."
First, online I'm always rushed, (like right now!)so its a mess, with info from the book and also from my own research mixed up. In that sense, yes, amateurish junk. Certainly not intended as psuedoscientific. And possibly correct & revealing.
"The first thing you could do is to check etymologies"
Etymologies are often subjective and incomplete.
" or in the case of astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week)"
aste is astral/planet related, planets "wander", English-Dutch "week" ~ wander/vika/weave back & forth/via/vector/vaya.
"and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week,"
likely cognate to isnin/ithnen/eka (first)
"ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
nekaz = azkena?
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MajuApr 14, 2012 05:28 PM
Do you speak Basque even a little bit? Obviously not. Hence shut up.
"Aste" is week. Astelehena is literally week-first, asteartea (tuesday) means "week-midle" and asteazkena means "week-last". Then come osteguna (the day of Ost, the Sky, later Jupiter and the Judeo-Christian Yaveh-God), etc. all with special meanings.
Astral comes from aster (star, see the common etymology?). Star in Basque is izar, which may be related to the IE word but does not seem related with aste at all (not in any obvious way certainly). Whatever connection of these words is in any case not with Ainu but with a geographically closer language family: Indoerupean (may be wanderworts, coincidences of sound or even remotely shared etymologies).
[lehen] "likely cognate to isnin/ithnen/eka (first)"
After such blatant idiocy, I don't want to see your shadow again in this blog. It'd be a brutal waste of time.
I know the saying "ignorance is arrogant" but never thought I'd be faced with it such an insulting way.
"nekaz = azkena?"
FYI no. Nekaz or rather nekez is with effort. Form the verbal root neka(-tu): to get tired.
You have not the slightest idea but you dare to make such arrogant claims... get lost!
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eurologistApr 15, 2012 03:13 AM
planets "wander", English-Dutch "week" ~ wander/vika/weave back & forth/via/vector/vaya.
"week" has nothing to do with "wander" - instead, it is related to the Germanic word for "change" - still surviving in the German word "Wechsel" with the same meaning. It refers to the periodic changeover of planet-gods that watched over specific days of the week. See also the Latin word "vices" with the same meaning.
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RepliesMajuApr 15, 2012 03:43 AM
Yes it's all crazy! I'm not deleting those comments because he's a one-time commenter but anyone posting that kind of junk repeatedly would for sure get me very annoyed.
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DDedenApr 16, 2012 08:59 AM
I can only say that I did not expect emotional reaction, just objective discussion. I'm not claiming Basque and Ainu are closely related, nor am I claiming the opposite.
Nekaz = (low) furrow (of week); Igandea = high (peak of week)
montaine Basque wednesday midweek bottom (sunday high)
lowland Dutch & English wednesday midweek "hump"
English "last" means both la(te)st and track/furrow (probably related to the last of a shoe in some way).
Long before there were names for planet gods, there was weaving (all great apes weave their bowl nests, probably for 10+ million years), very likely earliest Hs were weavers with associated words.
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RepliesMajuApr 16, 2012 01:13 PM
In order to deserve objective discussion your proposals would need to have some merit. You're just like that imaginary illiterate character who imagined a "tree" in the letter T and "forest" where there were Ts, etc.: no absolute connection with reality.
All you say is mere rambling.
I don't want you wasting my time or that of my readers anymore so it's your last warning: any future posts will be systematically deleted.
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DDedenApr 17, 2012 08:37 AM
Again, I can only say that I did not expect emotional reaction, just objective discussion.
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eurologistApr 17, 2012 05:10 AM
Where do you get this stuff from? Wednesday is derived from Wodan's day (the planet-god), and that by itself is most likely a translation from Latin (dies Mercurii = Mercury's day). By the way, German, Polish and Russian don't share this, but instead use literally "middle of the week."
This is how the planet-gods were thought to permutate watch over the hours of each day during the week (each was responsible for the first hour, the others for the subsequent hours, in order; the 25th hour is then the first hour of the next day associated with that respective planet-god; the line segments below are simply shortcuts so one does not have to count to 25, and form a heptagram):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Weekday_heptagram.svg
a comment from Maju: "astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
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[I don't know why Blogger inserts so much space between the sentences and paragraphs copied.]
The heptagram is triangularly woven around a center, while a 4-5 week monthly calendar is orthogonally woven (vertical columns x horizontal rows).
I don't know if Maju recognizes the similarity of aste (week)/oste (sky)/astro (stars)/Ishtar (goddess)/izar (star)/Tsar/Shah/Shabbat (Chaldean day-week)/Sabbath (Hebrew 7th day)/Sabtu.
Azkena and nekaz sound similar, and perhaps have the same origin (furrow of the week).
Did planets plow a furrow/ sky trail across? Would a thread with 7 beads interknotted (bracelet from race/rac) be used as a weekly calender?
Ibarra (which means the valley in Euskera) is a surname of Basque origin meaning 'valley' or 'plain by the river'
Celtic etymology based on bhar-s-, meaning "summit
In Basque, Basques call themselves euskaldunak, singular euskaldun, formed from euskal- (i.e. "Basque (language)") and -dun (i.e. "one who has"); euskaldun literally means a Basque speaker. Not all Basques are Basque-speakers, and not all Basque speakers are Basques; foreigners who have learned Basque can also be called euskaldunak. Therefore the neologism euskotar, plural euskotarrak, was coined in the 19th century to mean an ethnically Basque person whether Basque-speaking or not. These Basque words are all derived from euskara, the Basque name for the Basque language.
Alfonso Irigoyen claimed that the word euskara comes from an ancient Basque verb enautsi "to say" (cf. modern Basque esan) and the suffix -(k)ara ("way (of doing something)"). Thus euskara would literally mean "way of saying", "way of speaking". One item of evidence in favour of this hypothesis is found in the Spanish book Compendio Historial, written in 1571 by the Basque writer Esteban de Garibay, who records the name of the Basque language as "enusquera". It may be however a writing mistake.
In the 19th century, the Basque nationalist activist Sabino Arana posited an original root euzko which, he thought, came from eguzkiko ("of the sun" on the assumption of an original solar religion). On the basis of this putative root Arana proposed the name Euzkadi for an independent Basque nation, composed by seven Basque historical territories. Arana's neologism Euzkadi, in the regularized spelling Euskadi, is still widely used in both Basque and Spanish, since it is now the official name of the Autonomous Community of the Basque Country. It has also been suggested that the root of eusk- may be linked to the Aquitanian tribe of the Ausci.
http://books.google.com/books/about/The_Seven_Day_Circle.html?id=Cd5ZjRsNj4sC
Ainu - Utari [Arab: ain=wellspring, Grk: ydr & Skt: udr/utar=water]
Basque - Euskara [skal ~ chal/hald/high]
Sun/Sunday: Basque (Igandea: high, related to Tamil kandi: high and Chaldean Haldi: heavenly) relates to peak/pulse of week), Albanian: e diele.
Moon/Monday: Basque (astel ehena) maybe links to Albanian (e Hene/moon) [astel - astro-star-ishtar], both related to Hebrew sheni and Arab ithnin.
week: Dutch: week. Chaldean/Armenian: shabat/shapti, Hebrew: shavua, Persian: shambah, German: woch, Finnish: viikko, Lapp: wakko
Week relates to vector/vika/weave/vaya/wicker/way, in alternation of travel, that is back and forth in a repeated sequence of circular-temporal but linear-spatial fashion.
Ancient Egypt deified the sun and mostly ignored the moon in calenders because they were entirely Nile based, whose flow came from far south Sudan. They had 3 10-day weeks per month but used a perfect harmony of 36 constellations to match 36 weeks of the calendar, rather than lunar matching."The rise of the Sabbath cult in Judaism coincided with the withdrawal from worshipping the celestial bodies, and particularly the moon. In other words, the dissociation of the week from a natural cycle such as the waxing and waning of the moon can be seen as part of a general movement toward introducing a supranatural deity... untouched by nature in any way".
Also see my post on ancient calenders: http://the-arc-ddeden.blogspot.com.au/2010/02/shared-traits.html
Update:
Basque: nekaz = (low) furrow (of week); Igandea = high (peak of week)
[nekaz also means farming/cultivation, but originated from track, same as English and Norse "last"]
Compare these parallels: from nek|az (furrow) to az|ken (plow-follow a furrow) and en|autsi (say) to esa|n (say); in both, one syllable reverses while the other shifts. (During shifts and reversals, syllables often change sound slightly, eg. itsa to esa) to smooth speed/temper of speaking.)
http://www.aixerrotabhi.net/eusk/curriculumat/euskara/euskararenhistoria1_4.pdf
Russian: Lekha = furrow (confirmedby Vlad)
Scot. lireag = fallow ridge
Latin: lira = footprint
Basque days of the week: (from Buber)
Monday Astelehen/a (aste=week, lehen=first)
Tuesday Astearte/a (aste= week, arte = middle, mid of wk)
Wednesday Asteazken/a (aste=week, asken=last, last of wk)
Thursday Ostegun/a (day after the week is over (egun=day, oste=after)
Friday Ostiral/a (?)
Saturday Larunbat/a (bat = 1)
Sunday Igande/a (high)
http://www.buber.net/Basque/Euskara/days.html
etxe bat 'a house'
bi etxe `two houses'
etxe asko `many houses'
etxea `the house'
etxeak `the houses'
etxe zuria `the white house'
etxe zuriak `the white houses'
Aquitaine: Osso-, Basque. otso `wolf'.
Basque numbers 123 bat, bi, hiru or eka, bi, hiru
1 bat - badeh 11 hamaika ~ hameka
2 bi ~ bideh (twinen) 12 hamabi
3 hiru ~ thirur(thelatha) 13 hamahiru ~ hamahirur
4 lau ~ laur (kwror?)14 hamalau ~ hamalaur
5 bost ~ bortz 15 hamabost ~ hamabortz
6 sei 16 hamasei
7 zazpi 17 hamazazpi
8 zortzi 18 hemezortzi
9 bederatzi 19 hemeretzi
10 hamar 20 hogei
Compare to Arabic/Hebrew numbers:
1 wahad sunday=ahad
2 thenin/(twinin)/isnin
3 thalatha/(thrtha) selasa
4 arbu/wednesday = rabu
5 hamse/khamis cf panca/panj/pent so panchams?
6 sit ueh jumaat
7 shab et/sabtu (Heb shavua week, shabath sat.)
Albanian numbers: 123 nje, dy, tre
Basque months are cultivation-vegetation oriented, so furrow fits
montaine Basque - Sunday Igandea high to Wednesday midweek low furrow nekaz
lowland (Dutch &) English - Wednesday midweek "hump"
English "last" means both la(te)st and track/furrow (probably related to the last of a shoe in some way).
Long before there were names for planet gods, there was weaving (all great apes weave their bowl nests, probably for 10+ million years), very likely earliest Hs were weavers with associated words. Weaving back and forth produces rows and columns, similar to the Chemistry periodic table or the weekly/monthly calendar.
I left a comment at Maju's blog, thus begetting a dialogue which I copy here, specifically because he has said he will delete my comments there, and I don't want to lose the terms and definitions. Because I'm am always so hurried online, I copy it directly and analyse later the specifics. http://forwhattheywereweare.blogspot.com/2012/04/claim-that-japanese-are-60-72-neolithic.html?showComment=1334677027111
MajuApr 14, 2012 09:41 AM
A bunch of amateurish pseudoscientific junk, sorry. The first thing you could do is to check etymologies or in the case of astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows).
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DDedenApr 14, 2012 11:25 AM
"A bunch of amateurish pseudoscientific junk, sorry."
First, online I'm always rushed, (like right now!)so its a mess, with info from the book and also from my own research mixed up. In that sense, yes, amateurish junk. Certainly not intended as psuedoscientific. And possibly correct & revealing.
"The first thing you could do is to check etymologies"
Etymologies are often subjective and incomplete.
" or in the case of astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week)"
aste is astral/planet related, planets "wander", English-Dutch "week" ~ wander/vika/weave back & forth/via/vector/vaya.
"and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week,"
likely cognate to isnin/ithnen/eka (first)
"ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
nekaz = azkena?
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MajuApr 14, 2012 05:28 PM
Do you speak Basque even a little bit? Obviously not. Hence shut up.
"Aste" is week. Astelehena is literally week-first, asteartea (tuesday) means "week-midle" and asteazkena means "week-last". Then come osteguna (the day of Ost, the Sky, later Jupiter and the Judeo-Christian Yaveh-God), etc. all with special meanings.
Astral comes from aster (star, see the common etymology?). Star in Basque is izar, which may be related to the IE word but does not seem related with aste at all (not in any obvious way certainly). Whatever connection of these words is in any case not with Ainu but with a geographically closer language family: Indoerupean (may be wanderworts, coincidences of sound or even remotely shared etymologies).
[lehen] "likely cognate to isnin/ithnen/eka (first)"
After such blatant idiocy, I don't want to see your shadow again in this blog. It'd be a brutal waste of time.
I know the saying "ignorance is arrogant" but never thought I'd be faced with it such an insulting way.
"nekaz = azkena?"
FYI no. Nekaz or rather nekez is with effort. Form the verbal root neka(-tu): to get tired.
You have not the slightest idea but you dare to make such arrogant claims... get lost!
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eurologistApr 15, 2012 03:13 AM
planets "wander", English-Dutch "week" ~ wander/vika/weave back & forth/via/vector/vaya.
"week" has nothing to do with "wander" - instead, it is related to the Germanic word for "change" - still surviving in the German word "Wechsel" with the same meaning. It refers to the periodic changeover of planet-gods that watched over specific days of the week. See also the Latin word "vices" with the same meaning.
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RepliesMajuApr 15, 2012 03:43 AM
Yes it's all crazy! I'm not deleting those comments because he's a one-time commenter but anyone posting that kind of junk repeatedly would for sure get me very annoyed.
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DDedenApr 16, 2012 08:59 AM
I can only say that I did not expect emotional reaction, just objective discussion. I'm not claiming Basque and Ainu are closely related, nor am I claiming the opposite.
Nekaz = (low) furrow (of week); Igandea = high (peak of week)
montaine Basque wednesday midweek bottom (sunday high)
lowland Dutch & English wednesday midweek "hump"
English "last" means both la(te)st and track/furrow (probably related to the last of a shoe in some way).
Long before there were names for planet gods, there was weaving (all great apes weave their bowl nests, probably for 10+ million years), very likely earliest Hs were weavers with associated words.
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RepliesMajuApr 16, 2012 01:13 PM
In order to deserve objective discussion your proposals would need to have some merit. You're just like that imaginary illiterate character who imagined a "tree" in the letter T and "forest" where there were Ts, etc.: no absolute connection with reality.
All you say is mere rambling.
I don't want you wasting my time or that of my readers anymore so it's your last warning: any future posts will be systematically deleted.
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DDedenApr 17, 2012 08:37 AM
Again, I can only say that I did not expect emotional reaction, just objective discussion.
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eurologistApr 17, 2012 05:10 AM
Where do you get this stuff from? Wednesday is derived from Wodan's day (the planet-god), and that by itself is most likely a translation from Latin (dies Mercurii = Mercury's day). By the way, German, Polish and Russian don't share this, but instead use literally "middle of the week."
This is how the planet-gods were thought to permutate watch over the hours of each day during the week (each was responsible for the first hour, the others for the subsequent hours, in order; the 25th hour is then the first hour of the next day associated with that respective planet-god; the line segments below are simply shortcuts so one does not have to count to 25, and form a heptagram):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Weekday_heptagram.svg
a comment from Maju: "astelehena, realize that it's a composite word from 'aste' (week) and 'lehen(a)' ((the) first): the first of the week, ironically the last of the week (asteazkena) is wednesday and nobody knows why (I speculate that the weekend was four-days long but who knows)."
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[I don't know why Blogger inserts so much space between the sentences and paragraphs copied.]
The heptagram is triangularly woven around a center, while a 4-5 week monthly calendar is orthogonally woven (vertical columns x horizontal rows).
I don't know if Maju recognizes the similarity of aste (week)/oste (sky)/astro (stars)/Ishtar (goddess)/izar (star)/Tsar/Shah/Shabbat (Chaldean day-week)/Sabbath (Hebrew 7th day)/Sabtu.
Azkena and nekaz sound similar, and perhaps have the same origin (furrow of the week).
Did planets plow a furrow/ sky trail across? Would a thread with 7 beads interknotted (bracelet from race/rac) be used as a weekly calender?
Ibarra (which means the valley in Euskera) is a surname of Basque origin meaning 'valley' or 'plain by the river'
Celtic etymology based on bhar-s-, meaning "summit
In Basque, Basques call themselves euskaldunak, singular euskaldun, formed from euskal- (i.e. "Basque (language)") and -dun (i.e. "one who has"); euskaldun literally means a Basque speaker. Not all Basques are Basque-speakers, and not all Basque speakers are Basques; foreigners who have learned Basque can also be called euskaldunak. Therefore the neologism euskotar, plural euskotarrak, was coined in the 19th century to mean an ethnically Basque person whether Basque-speaking or not. These Basque words are all derived from euskara, the Basque name for the Basque language.
Alfonso Irigoyen claimed that the word euskara comes from an ancient Basque verb enautsi "to say" (cf. modern Basque esan) and the suffix -(k)ara ("way (of doing something)"). Thus euskara would literally mean "way of saying", "way of speaking". One item of evidence in favour of this hypothesis is found in the Spanish book Compendio Historial, written in 1571 by the Basque writer Esteban de Garibay, who records the name of the Basque language as "enusquera". It may be however a writing mistake.
In the 19th century, the Basque nationalist activist Sabino Arana posited an original root euzko which, he thought, came from eguzkiko ("of the sun" on the assumption of an original solar religion). On the basis of this putative root Arana proposed the name Euzkadi for an independent Basque nation, composed by seven Basque historical territories. Arana's neologism Euzkadi, in the regularized spelling Euskadi, is still widely used in both Basque and Spanish, since it is now the official name of the Autonomous Community of the Basque Country. It has also been suggested that the root of eusk- may be linked to the Aquitanian tribe of the Ausci.
Friday, April 13, 2012
water
water
Japanese - mizu (cf moist, mist, moat, Michigan/michisibbi, mer/mai/mar)
Ainu/Utari - wakka (cf voda, watar, akwa/agua) [wakko - week, Lith.?]
Greek - hydor/nero
Tamil - neer/neeru
Sanskrit - udan, udra
Possibly, odor originated as vaporous water?
Compare (coincidence?)
"Ainu" to Ain/Ein (Arabic/Hebrew wellspring)
"Utari" to udra/udar/hadra/hydr/watery (sam-udra = ocean)
Conversely, in Malay, air/ayer = water to drink, but udara = air to breathe (sum-atra island)
Bilad al Sudan (Arabic) land of black, likely from soil color, black = rich wet organic soil vs dry yellow red sand desert of Egypt. So Sudan may be derivative/source of udan (water).
Mandan round bull boat, Dakota canoe - wata
http://no-sword.jp/blog/2008/05/ainu_utari_ainu.html
Japanese - mizu (cf moist, mist, moat, Michigan/michisibbi, mer/mai/mar)
Ainu/Utari - wakka (cf voda, watar, akwa/agua) [wakko - week, Lith.?]
Greek - hydor/nero
Tamil - neer/neeru
Sanskrit - udan, udra
Possibly, odor originated as vaporous water?
Compare (coincidence?)
"Ainu" to Ain/Ein (Arabic/Hebrew wellspring)
"Utari" to udra/udar/hadra/hydr/watery (sam-udra = ocean)
Conversely, in Malay, air/ayer = water to drink, but udara = air to breathe (sum-atra island)
Bilad al Sudan (Arabic) land of black, likely from soil color, black = rich wet organic soil vs dry yellow red sand desert of Egypt. So Sudan may be derivative/source of udan (water).
Mandan round bull boat, Dakota canoe - wata
http://no-sword.jp/blog/2008/05/ainu_utari_ainu.html
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
Dome huts
http://www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-image-domed-huts-in-syria-image8941926
These beehive dome huts show advances from original wicker-leaf domes of Congo.
The dome's square base and linear spacing in village shows population pressure of sedentarism (they are part-nomads), the domes are of sun-dried mud brick (from clod of mud/sod of soil & papyrus sedge roots excluding the edible rhyzomes). They probably have small cool cellars. The doorways and rect. doors are derived from earlier small oval entry ways, possibly due to allowing domestic animals inside during storms or raids (see Sharha of Oman with cattle domes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhofar_Governorate
http://kurniawangunadi.tumblr.com/post/19730823539/hari-4-bamboo-shelter-project-institut
http://tinyurl.com/82dfj76
http://tinyurl.com/82dfj76
Portugal neolithic village: http://portugueseenclosures.blogspot.com/2012/01/0072-aguas-frias-ditched-enclosure.html
These beehive dome huts show advances from original wicker-leaf domes of Congo.
The dome's square base and linear spacing in village shows population pressure of sedentarism (they are part-nomads), the domes are of sun-dried mud brick (from clod of mud/sod of soil & papyrus sedge roots excluding the edible rhyzomes). They probably have small cool cellars. The doorways and rect. doors are derived from earlier small oval entry ways, possibly due to allowing domestic animals inside during storms or raids (see Sharha of Oman with cattle domes).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhofar_Governorate
http://kurniawangunadi.tumblr.com/post/19730823539/hari-4-bamboo-shelter-project-institut
http://tinyurl.com/82dfj76
http://tinyurl.com/82dfj76
Portugal neolithic village: http://portugueseenclosures.blogspot.com/2012/01/0072-aguas-frias-ditched-enclosure.html
Saturday, April 7, 2012
Chadramites
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mappa_di_Eratostene.jpg
200BC, Eratosthenes of the Library of Alexandria, Egypt produced his world map.
Note that the name of the southern coast of Arabia is named Chatramitae.
It was pronounced approximately "(cH) ad e rama uht e" (with a weak Ch/ strong H sound), and numerous names are derived from it: Chad, Chalde, chant, merchant, Iram, adramite, haudrumaut, shahra (people of Dhofar, Oman who raise the only cattle in Arabia and gather frankinsence) etc.
Did the Jews build these mudbrick towers? http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/10/stormbattered_yemen.html
Link between Roman Hydromet & Hydramaut:
Link between Hadramaut & Indonesia trade (mahabalipuram): http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?74948-Link-between-Indonsia-and-Hadramaut-Yemen
Mega-lake Chad enlarged and shrank through geologic time.
Chad->Darfur/Kordofian->Chatramites/people of Ad at Iram/Dhofar/Zuhar/Ubar->Towhar/Taurus mtns./Akkad/arcadians/Ugarit(ubgharit)/Chaldia/Chaldees, Ur (Basque=water, Hindi = homestead)
200BC, Eratosthenes of the Library of Alexandria, Egypt produced his world map.
Note that the name of the southern coast of Arabia is named Chatramitae.
It was pronounced approximately "(cH) ad e rama uht e" (with a weak Ch/ strong H sound), and numerous names are derived from it: Chad, Chalde, chant, merchant, Iram, adramite, haudrumaut, shahra (people of Dhofar, Oman who raise the only cattle in Arabia and gather frankinsence) etc.
Did the Jews build these mudbrick towers? http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2008/10/stormbattered_yemen.html
Link between Roman Hydromet & Hydramaut:
Link between Hadramaut & Indonesia trade (mahabalipuram): http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?74948-Link-between-Indonsia-and-Hadramaut-Yemen
Mega-lake Chad enlarged and shrank through geologic time.
Chad->Darfur/Kordofian->Chatramites/people of Ad at Iram/Dhofar/Zuhar/Ubar->Towhar/Taurus mtns./Akkad/arcadians/Ugarit(ubgharit)/Chaldia/Chaldees, Ur (Basque=water, Hindi = homestead)
Friday, April 6, 2012
Nyiur Ikan
http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/sRWojqf4Y-w/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperHobbyTime
Ikan kecil dalam 'gua nyiur/kelapa' di akwarium
little fish inside a 'coconut cave' in an aquarium
Coconut cave with java moss and java fern:
http://www.vendio.com/stores/its-a-fishy-buziness/item/aquatic-plants/java-moss-anubias-nana-coconut/lid=14981746
Nyiur (Malay)/nyior(Bornean)/nui (Samoan-Hawaiian)/niyug (Philippino) = nug/nut
Ikan (fish)
[Note: a coconut is botanically not a nut, it is a drupe, like a cherry, with fibers replacing flesh.]
New Eurekan - Nu Yorikan - Nyiur Ikan
Discoverer - New York Puerto Rican - Coconut Fish
Salted dry fish with dry coconut shavings: http://tarabozu2.blogspot.com/2011/03/kesedapan-pulut-nyiur-ikan-masin.html
hehe ;~)
my bands' name: "New Eurekan" "Nu Yorikan" "Nyiur Ikan"
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Check out this THRIVE site: http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_code#
and this: http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/
http://www.youtube.com/user/SuperHobbyTime
Ikan kecil dalam 'gua nyiur/kelapa' di akwarium
little fish inside a 'coconut cave' in an aquarium
Coconut cave with java moss and java fern:
http://www.vendio.com/stores/its-a-fishy-buziness/item/aquatic-plants/java-moss-anubias-nana-coconut/lid=14981746
Nyiur (Malay)/nyior(Bornean)/nui (Samoan-Hawaiian)/niyug (Philippino) = nug/nut
Ikan (fish)
[Note: a coconut is botanically not a nut, it is a drupe, like a cherry, with fibers replacing flesh.]
New Eurekan - Nu Yorikan - Nyiur Ikan
Discoverer - New York Puerto Rican - Coconut Fish
Salted dry fish with dry coconut shavings: http://tarabozu2.blogspot.com/2011/03/kesedapan-pulut-nyiur-ikan-masin.html
hehe ;~)
my bands' name: "New Eurekan" "Nu Yorikan" "Nyiur Ikan"
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Check out this THRIVE site: http://www.thrivemovement.com/the_code#
and this: http://thrivedebunked.wordpress.com/
Wednesday, April 4, 2012
Swirling Worlds & Starry Starry Nights
Happy birthday to all!
just a coincidence, today I see this remarkable video:
http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2012/02/interactive-starry-night/
It should be 'played' with "Vincent" in the background
http://www.don-mclean.com/vincent.asp
Subject: Swirling World of Water
I just finished constructed a geometric dodeca-icosahedral model of earths' (idealized) continents and ocean flows yesterday, and now I see this fascinating video today:
http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-03/video-swirling-visualization-oceans-currents
2nd update: Science news Apr. 7 article: ocean currents in 2008 around antarctica changed slightly causing slight speeding of earth's spin, as if it were geared.
http://www.sciencenewsdigital.org/sciencenews/20120407?pg=6#pg6 (see "How Bizarre" section and click to enlarge)
Note huge size of emerged Sunda during ice age (light blue tone): http://www.sciencenews.org/view/interest/id/2362/topic/Earth
Early Tectonics: http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/339797/title/Stop-and-go_plate_tectonics
What a rock we live on!
update: Compare these rep-tiles (self-replicating tilings in 2 or more dimensions)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonian_gasket
Consider their potential use in the Fuller Jitterbug transformation:
Jain explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6O6NLaHcb0
Long video explanation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19eV7Z1x3M
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