Forest: latin, outside of house (forum, foris)
Arbor: french, tree
Silva: latin, forest (cf agri - field acre, arbori - tree), herb/arb
Endura: mbuti, interior of forest (endu = interior of dome hut)
So the term for 'the woods' is dependent upon authors' perspective & reference point, "inside/outside" of what? In Rome and London, the forest/woods was outside the city walls/fences and were managed by the kings' forest rangers/guards, while the wooded parklands were inside the city walls/fences and were managed by arborists/gardeners.
Forest related words From Carlos Lascaux
...paa(Th)=woods/forest,=pa(middle chinese)=meadow. also, Bantu(Gens)= B/pan-tu(letra/reversal)=topan(N)=over us(their God, the forest)= paa(thai). the chinese=pa=pan(N)=place, apan(N)=river(water/atl/apan).
Cuauhnauac(N)=woods4/trees4, and, the city/ciuia(N/verb)=stimulate(E) is surrounded by forest.
starling: this bird and its wider species follow the plow, has known man and learned from him since agriculture/forest clearings
sea age 2ka a continuation of the nomad deer age. even the word, mast(E)=masta(W.Germ)=
mastr(ONorse/MLG)=mazdos(WIE/West.Indo-Euro), then connects to, mast(E)=fruit of
forest trees,=mast(OHG)=mazdos(WIE)=meat(E)=maz(OHG)=mazatl(N/7 Tona)=deer.
with boat mast=mastro(Portugues)=mastil(sp).
mazatl(N/7) has close relationship to maze(E), to mastr(ONorse)=ma(s)t/l/r
(letra)=matlatl(N)=net, ah, the mast where the netting hangs, and, the word,
noma/nomatka/nomatzinco(N)=nomad(Fr/Lat/Gk)=no matlatl(N)=no/my net/matlatl=
ma(N)=hunt land/sea with net,=atlatl(N)=throwing stick,=at/l/r-at/l/r=arrow=
dart(E)=d/t/tl-ar/l/tl(letra)=a-tl-atl(N), with the d being the d/t/l-atl/art.
dart(E)=tart(OHG)=t/l-ar/l/t/l(letra). fool with r/l/t/l, and, t/l/r/l/t/l
before you tell me Letra doesn't work, por favor. Tlaloc/Rarog, too.
RDeer. the Mazatlan practice shamanism= chamaua(N)=eulogize/xamani(N)=destroy. their ancestors enter trees= treow(OE)=Teotl(N)upon dying and from there guide the living. deer milk made into cheese tastes like sharp Parmesan. 2004 Mazat/ Dukha herdsman had 97 head, tourism arrived, thousands of $ to see a red deer, but none of that money got to the Dukha/Toca(N). [tocharian?]
Okhotsk=Ocotl Tochin(N)= Pine(forest)Conejo/Cony=Bobcat
...onicma(N)=i knew it, i found it out; i learned it,=aenigma(Lat), -mat-=mati(N)=know,=ainigma(Gk)=enigma(E)=riddle in verse=uta(Japonica)= otli(N)=route/order/vein=in uentli(N)=the offering,=odol(Basque)=(b)lood (E)=idol(E)=Odin/Wodin/Wo(r)ding.
tzocatl(N)=socket(E)/wrinkle=w(r)i(n)k(letra)= wick(e)=uic(N)=back and forth/row,=uictli(N)=shovel,=ahuictli(N)=oar, uica(N/verb)=vicar/govern/Viking(Norse)=uiquillia(N/rev)=quiller(Teuton). ...lolo(M)=papalotl(N)=butterfly,=m-lulu(Bantu=Topan/N/reversal/= over us, ah, the Forest itself is their Deity.
http://tlatlatzolteotl.blogspot.com/
http://tletl.blogspot.com/search?q=forest
Dukha/Dukkha ...Tsaatan, short for Ma-zatlan(N)=DeerLand, southernmost reindeer/Mazatl (N/7 Tonalamatl)culture, Mongolian taiga, between Siberian Boreal forest to the North and the Steppes of inner-Asia to the South. smallest ethnic minority in Mongolia
the Mazatlan practice shamanism= chamaua(N)=eulogize/xamani(N)=destroy. their ancestors enter trees= treow(OE)=Teotl(N)upon dying and from there guide the living. [tocharian - toca?]
dukkha is the unsatisfactoriousness of life due to its clamor notorious, being to-/our being/-ca, not catching up to our imaginations running away with our potential=potli(N)=companion/brother(E), also poa(N)=power/flower/plower(E), which is paired with sukha= tzocatl(N)=socket/wrinkle/fill with tzo/mud(E), supposedly the asukha/azucar(sp)=sugar of life, if one can consider, as Xanthippe had to, Tzocrates, as sweet. the Wiki-etymology of these words is the late Buddhist Etym., atomized into unrecognizable mini-particles. but let's give it a try, as their roots hit paydirt when they mention the ancient Aryans=Airyani=Ailia yani(N)=allied pilgrims of the plain/ llano(sp) with their horse/cattle/oxen-drawn carts/tereg(Mongol)= the Castle/rook in chess(from Arabs), saying that -kha=sky, well the sky is a being, but kha/ca(N)all by itself=being, and is the soul of the Pharoah when he unwraps himself from his tomb for nightwalks when his stars are right. ...sukha=good axle=axictli(N)=waterspout that runs
Okhotsk=Ocotl Tochin(N)= Pine(forest)Conejo/Cony=Bobcat
Hodsock=tzocatl(N)=wrinkle/socket(E). ...Matlock=Matlatl tloc(N)=beside the hand/net.
...Que(r)cus=Quech/c-ua(Inca)=Oquichtli(N)=O(r)chid. Onions goes all around the forest on this one, avoiding the O, but putting in every other combination of vowel making O, e.g., ac/aec(OE)=eiche(Ger)/ eik(ON)=aiks(CGerm), on the linguistic merry-go-round, even mistaking the name Acton for Oak related, but, Algodon(sp)=Cotton=A(l)c(o)ton, the cotton armor padding in fashion before metals, the cheap version after. in fact all names thought to be Oak, save Oakley and Noke, which could be, Noquia/Noquilia(N)=verter/spill//purge, have other antecedents, e.g., Agden, cf., Acton.
...lolo(M)=papalotl(N)=butterfly,=m-lulu(Bantu=Topan/N/reversal/= over us, ah, the Forest itself is their Deity.
(S)wa/waa/ua(N)h/th/tilinqui(N) ...or, Swahili=owns tongue/tili-nqui(N)=lingua(Lat)=lengua(sp). ...dunia(S)=world=d/Tonia(letra)=Tonatiuh(N)=Anthony, the Sun,= dunya(Arab)=dune(E)=tune(E)=tone(E)=Tonatiuh(N). dunes are solar. ...ulimwengu(S)=Ollin uentli co(N)=comes the (r)olling offering, i.e., the Sun, Tona, the Naui Ollin of the 5th Age. ...udongo(S)=soil=tzotl(N)=sod/sot/mud/soot,=od/oto(n)c/go(letra)= otocac/toca(N)=sow/sembrar y enterrar/bury. ...matope(S)=mud=m/zud(Mongol)=z/sod/soil(E)=s/z/tzotl(N),=ma/hand idol/toptli(N)=attob(Arab)=tob/tub(Egyptian)=adobe(Amerind)= the mud/tzotl for adobe/al-tob(Arab)=the brick=piccatl(N)=vulva (lipped being=renga/Japonica/=r/tentli ca(N)=tenca(N)=t/renga(J)=brick. ...kilima(S)=mountain/hill,=Colima(Mex/state)=Coliman(N)=maritime province on the Pacific vertiente, Mexico,=colli/culli(N)=abuelo/ abuela,=nocolhuan(N)=my ancestors,=ima(N)=his/their hands/ma(N). ancestors had a close relation with Tepetl=Te(m)ple, idented with mountains, e.g., Colima(N)=hands of(the)Grandfather. ...ziwa(S)=lake=tlaca(N)=body,=ciuatl(N)=woman,=Tzintli ua(N)= the Hon./saintly owner(E)=tzo atl(N)=blood water/atl(N). ...ghuba(S)=bay,=gubb/gubba/gubbat(Arab)=gh/g/cov/b(letra)=cove(E). ...mwitu(S)=wood/forest,=witu(OHG)=wood(E)=quauitl(N)=tree=treow(OE)= teotl(N),=kaede(Japonica)=maple,=keadar(Basque)=cedar(E)=(Al)qaeda (Arab)=vithr(ONorse)=withe/with/wide(E).
topan(N)=over us,=Pan-to(N/reversal)= P/Bantu(Afrikan tribe whose deity=the forest above them).
tree/ki(J) ...tricky=ticitl(N)=doctor/midwife,=tiger(E/birthing animal of the cave Venus,
the ocelotl/ocelome(N/plural);
wood=witu(OHG)=qua-uitl(N)=tree=t(r)eow(OE)=teotl(N)=teo theo deo, ke/keadar(Basque)=smoke/column of smoke,=cedar(E/tree)=kaede(J)=mapletree, =ka/qua-(u)itl/t/de(letra=J/N)=al qaeda(arab)=campfire/HQ,=tlalli quauitl(N)= earth/landtree. ki(J)=chi(N), trees are on top of, over, as the Bantu/Topan(N)= over us, noticed, their deity being the forest itself from which they received
everything. it turns out Neander/Neandra swam the strait of Gibralter near Ceuta=
ceuia(N)=nitla-ceuia(N)=ceui(N)=become cold, apagar el fuego,=Ceutlan(N)=place of
rest and frío, to get to europe, because the Bantu have a cave horizon, pygmy
dwarfs=d/t/z(w)a(r)p/f(letra)=zapa/zapatl(N)=dwarf(E)=zapatero(sp)=shoemaker/
schumacher=s/sh/xotl maca(N)=footmaker,=zapa/zhapa/hapa/japa(N)=Japan, and dwarfs
have an advantage in cave environs [BUT pygmies don't enter caves in Congo?] , pueden esconderse en lugares muy pequeños.
al principio, pensé, ki(J), de q(ua)uitl(N)/kitl, pero, si, ke(Basque)=smoke,
y quemar(sp)=burn=brinnan(OHG)=b/pinaua/opinauah(N)=hacerse rojizo(con verguenza),
pos, idioma viene del cuerpo mismo, entonces tiene, ki(J)=kaede(J) nexo con,
quauitl(N), e.g., kae/ki(J).
"the word string in Nauatl: Toptli/toptia=opt/obey, Tobey/Tobit/Topile/ topilli(N)=truncheon, made of topol(R)=poplarwood, the pruned tree. that Toptia/obey(E)later becomes brick in Egyptian/Arab is telling, as bricks/adobe obey where they are laid, edge to edge" [cf Tarim Basin China, Tocharians/tukhara/twgry/yuezhi/tokharoi toca/dukha? buried kin in poplar trunks or coffin boats of poplar]
Fire: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fire
Etymology: From Middle English fier, from Old English fȳr (“fire”), from West Germanic *fuïr, a regularised form of Proto-Germanic *fōr (“fire”) (compare West Frisian fjoer, Dutch vuur, Low German Für, German Feuer, Danish fyr), from Proto-Indo-European *péh₂ur (compare Hittite 𒉺𒀪𒄯 (paḫḫur), Umbrian pir, Tocharian A/B por/puwar, Czech pȳř (“hot ashes”), Ancient Greek πῦρ (pŷr, “fire”), Armenian հուր (hur, “fire”)). This was an inanimate noun whose animate counterpart was Proto-Indo-European *Hn̥gʷnis.
PIE pehur/pahur (pyre)
Mbuti apa
Malay api
Polynesian ahi
Ainu ape
Apalai Brazil apoto
Hebrew nura
Avestan atar
Turk dial. ot, ates
Latin dial. focu
Atlas berber afa
words around world for fire/ignite/oxidize:
Aché: tata
Afrikaans: vuur (af)
Ainu: アペ (ape)
Akkadian: 𒉈 (išātu) f.
Albanian: zjarr (sq) m.
Ama: ta
Amanayé: tata
Amharic: እሳት (am) (əsat) m.
Amundava: tata
Angaataha: sisɨha
Apalaí: apoto
Apiaká: tata
Arabic: نَارٌ (ar) (nār) f.
Egyptian Arabic: نار (nar) f.
Aragonese: fuego (an)
Aramaic: ܢܘܪܐ
Hebrew: נורא (nūrā’) f.
Syriac: ܢܘܪܐ (nūrā’) f.
Armenian: կրակ (hy) (krak), հուր (hy) (hur)
Aromanian: foc
Avestan: ātar
Aymara: nina (ay)
Azeri: od (az), atəş (az)
Baluchi: آس (ás), آچ (ác)
Bashkir: ут (ut)
Basque: su (eu)
Baure: yaki
Belarusian: агонь (be) (ahónʹ) m.
Bengali: আগুন (bn) (agun), অগ্নি (bn) (ôgni)
Borôro: joru
Breton: tan (br) m.
Bulgarian: огън (bg) (ógǎn) m.
Burmese: တေဇော (my) (tei zo)
Catalan: foc (ca) m.
Cebuano: kalayo
Central Atlas Tamazight: ⴰⴼⴰ (afa) m., ⵜⵉⵎⵙⵙⵉ (timssi) f.
Chamicuro: kajchi
Chamorro: guafi (ch)
Chinese:
Cantonese: 火 (fo2)
Dungan: хуә
Mandarin: 火 (zh) (huǒ)
Min Dong: 火 (huōi)
Min Nan: 火 (hóe, hé)
Wu: 火 (hǔ)
Chuvash: вут (vut)
Coptic:
Bohairic: ⲭⲣⲱⲙ (ʔxrōm) m., ⲥⲁϯ (sati) f.
Sahidic: ⲕⲣⲱⲙ (ʔkrōm) m., ⲥⲁⲧⲉ (sate) f.
Cornish: tan (kw) m.
Corsican: focu (co)
Cree: ᐃᔥᑯᑌᐤ (cr) (ishkuteu)
Crimean Tatar: ot
Czech: oheň (cs) m.
Danish: ild (da) c.
Dolgan: уот (uot)
Dutch: vuur (nl) n.
Egyptian: 𓏴𓏏𓊮 (sdjt) f.
Esperanto: fajro (eo)
Estonian: tuli (et)
Evenki: того (togo)
Faroese: eldur (fo) m.
Finnish: tuli (fi)
French: feu (fr) m.
Old French: fu m., feu m.
Friulian: fûc
Gagauz: ateş
Galician: lume (gl) m.
Georgian: ცეცხლი (ka) (c'ec'xli), ალი (ka) (ali)
German: Feuer (de) n.
Greek:
Ancient: πῦρ (pyr) n.
Modern: φωτιά (el) (fotiá) f.
Hawaiian: ahi
Hebrew: אֵשׁ (he) (eš) f.
Hindi: आग (hi) (āg) f., अग्नि (hi) (agní), आतिश (hi) (ātiś)
Hittite: 𒉺𒀪𒄯 (paḫḫur) n.
Hungarian: tűz (hu)
Icelandic: eldur (is) m., bál (is) n.
Ido: fairo (io)
Igbo: ọku
Indonesian: api (id)
Irish: tine (ga) m.
Old Irish: teine m.
Italian: fuoco (it) m.
Japanese: 火 (ja) (ひ, hi), 燃焼 (ja) (ねんしょう, nenshō)
Javanese: geni (jv)
Kannada: ಬೆಂಕಿ (kn) (benki), ಅಗ್ನಿ (kn) (agni), ಕಿಚ್ಚು (kn) (kiccu)
Karachay-Balkar: от (ot)
Karakalpak: ot
Kazakh: от (kk) (ot)
Khakas: от (ot)
Khmer: ភ្លើង (km) (pləəng)
Korean: 불 (ko) (bul)
Kumyk: от (ot)
Kurdish:
Kurmanji: agir (ku) m., nar (ku) f.
Sorani: ئاگر (ku) (Agir)
Kyrgyz: от (ky) (ot)
Lao: ໄຟ (lo) (fai)
Latgalian: guņs f.
Latin: ignis (la) m., focus (la) m., flamma (la) f.
Latvian: uguns (lv) f.
Lithuanian: ugnis (lt)
Lombard: fööch
Low German: Füer (nds)
Luxembourgish: Feier (lb)
Macedonian: оган (mk) (ógan) m.
Malay: api (ms), pawaka (ms) (in archaic literature, obsolete)
Malayalam: തീ (ml) (thee), അഗ്നി (ml) (agni)
Maltese: nar (mt) f.
Maléku Jaíka: kúe
Manx: çhenney m.
Maori: ahi (mi)
Mapudungun: kütral, kvxal
Marathi: अग्नि (mr) (agni)
Middle Persian: ādur
Miskito: pata
Mongolian: гал (mn)
Nanticoke: tunt
Navajo: kǫʼ
Neapolitan: ffuoco
Nepali: आगो (ne) (Āgō)
Ngarrindjeri: keni
Nogai: от (ot)
Norwegian: ild (no) m.
Nynorsk: eld (no)
Novial: faire
Occitan: fuòc (oc)
Ojibwe: zaka'igewin, ishkode
Old Church Slavonic: огнь (ognĭ) m.
Old English: fyr (ang)
Old Norse: eldr m.
Old Provençal: fuoc
Old Prussian: pannu
Oriya: ଅଗ୍ନି (or) (agni)
Ossetian: арт (art)
Ottoman Turkish: آتش (âteş), نار (nâr), آذر (âzer)
Paumarí: siho
Pennsylvania German: feier
Persian: آتش (fa) (âtaš), آذر (fa) (âzar)
Old Persian: ātar
Phoenician: 𐤀𐤎 (ʾs)
Polish: ogień (pl) m.
Portuguese: fogo (pt) m.
Quechua: nina (qu)
Rapa Nui: ahi
Rohingya: ooin
Romani: jag
Romanian: foc (ro) n.
Romansch: fieu m., fö (rm) m.
Russian: огонь (ru) (ogónʹ) m.
Samoan: afi (sm)
Samogitian: ognis
Sanskrit: अग्नि (sa) (agní)
Scots: fire
Scottish Gaelic: teine (gd) m.
Serbo-Croatian:
Cyrillic: ватра (sh) f., огањ (sh) m.
Roman: vatra (sh) f., oganj (sh) m.
Shor: от (ot)
Sicilian: focu (scn)
Sinhalese: ගින්න (si) (ginna)
Skolt Sami: toll
Slovak: oheň (sk) m.
Slovene: ogenj (sl) m.
Sotho: mollo (st)
Southern Altai: от (ot)
Spanish: fuego (es) m.
Sumerian: 𒉈 (NE)
Swahili: moto (sw)
Swedish: eld (sv) c., brand (sv) c.
Tagalog: apoy (tl)
Tahitian: please add this translation if you can
Tajik: оташ (tg) (otaš)
Tamil: நெருப்பு (ta) (noruppu)
Taos: phà’áne
Tatar: ут (tt) (ut), ялкын (tt) (yalqın)
Telugu: అగ్ని (te) (agni)
Thai: ไฟ (th) (fai)
Tibetan: མེ (bo) (me)
Tocharian A: por
Tocharian B: puwar
Turkish: ateş (tr)
Turkmen: ot (tk)
Tuvan: от (ot)
Tzotzil: k'ok'
Ugaritic: 𐎛𐎌𐎚 (ỉšt)
Ukrainian: вогонь (uk) (vohónʹ) m.
Urdu: آگ (ur) (āg) f., آتش (ur) (ātiś) f., اگنی (ur) (agní)
Uyghur: ئوت (ug) (ot)
Uzbek: oʻt (uz), otash (uz)
Venetian: fógo
Vietnamese: lửa (vi), hoả (vi) (rare) (火 (vi))
Vilamovian: faojer
Welsh: tân (cy) m.
West Frisian: fjoer n.
Xhosa: umlilo
!Xóõ: ǀʻàã
Yakut: уот (uot)
Yiddish: פֿײַער (yi) (fayer) m. and n.
Zhuang: feiz (za)
Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Thursday, May 24, 2012
Tuscarora
Link between tuscarora/skararure, etruscan, euskara/basque, tukhara/tocharian/tushara/yuezhi/gushi/kushan?
Tuscarora ("hemp gatherers"[1]) are a Native American people of the Iroquoian-language family
Ska:rù:rę' Skarureh refers to the long shirt worn as part of the men's regalia, hence "long shirt people".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skarure
Greenwood: Amerind branch he calls Keresiouan. Examples of these citations include:
ku…reh ‘acorn’, in relation to *kul, 'tree'
nyatar ‘sea’, in relation to *na, 'water'
Compare *kul, 'tree' to these:
Greek húlē 'forest, wood; firewood, timber; possibly via Etruscan, from Euroasiatic root *[z]ilwV 'wood' (Starostin), reflected in Altaic *sjulu (˜ *z-, -l´-) 'conifer, pine tree', [and to silva (forest).]
1 For example, a proposed link to IE *k´sul-o- 'log' > Greek ksúlos 'wood'.
http://vasco-caucasian.blogspot.com/2011/09/latin-silva.html
(parts paraphrased by me DDeden)
Tusharas (alias Tukharas, Tócharoi) were a Mleccha tribe, with their kingdom located in the north west of India as per the epic Mahabharata. An account in Mahabharata (Mbh 1:85) depicts Mlechchas as the descendants of Anu
Tuscarora ("hemp gatherers"[1]) are a Native American people of the Iroquoian-language family
Ska:rù:rę' Skarureh refers to the long shirt worn as part of the men's regalia, hence "long shirt people".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skarure
Greenwood: Amerind branch he calls Keresiouan. Examples of these citations include:
ku…reh ‘acorn’, in relation to *kul, 'tree'
nyatar ‘sea’, in relation to *na, 'water'
Compare *kul, 'tree' to these:
Greek húlē 'forest, wood; firewood, timber; possibly via Etruscan, from Euroasiatic root *[z]ilwV 'wood' (Starostin), reflected in Altaic *sjulu (˜ *z-, -l´-) 'conifer, pine tree', [and to silva (forest).]
1 For example, a proposed link to IE *k´sul-o- 'log' > Greek ksúlos 'wood'.
http://vasco-caucasian.blogspot.com/2011/09/latin-silva.html
(parts paraphrased by me DDeden)
Tusharas (alias Tukharas, Tócharoi) were a Mleccha tribe, with their kingdom located in the north west of India as per the epic Mahabharata. An account in Mahabharata (Mbh 1:85) depicts Mlechchas as the descendants of Anu
Tuesday, May 15, 2012
Friday, May 4, 2012
The Ark was circular
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/01/noahs-ark-was-circular/print
This agrees with my earlier interpretation of round boats preceding longboats.
[Note: see bottom for interesting boat coffins & Urumqi mummies of China Tairm Basin]
The bible mentions rectilinear measurements, but those may have referred to the interior cabins/pens (and perhaps magnified in size and carrying capacity by editors?), not necessarily to the overall circular form.
Note: Noah may have been titled Atram Hasis, from Ad-iram (adramite of Ptolemy/Chatramotitae of Erasthenos/Hadramaut/Ch'Ad/Akkad) while hasis = aziz (Arabic: "highly valued'), related to Oasis & Hasidic (temple well - flowing spring), compare to (at-Ra)Moses (Nile Hebrew), (at)Ra-M-ses (Nile Pharaoh), also the English word Admiral (via Arabic) while Noah relates to Nao-katu/Navigate/boat maker-user.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/01/noahs-ark-was-circular/print
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There are dozens of ancient tablets that have been found which describe the flood story but Finkel says this one is the first to describe the vessel's shape. "In all the images ever made people assumed the ark was, in effect, an ocean-going boat, with a pointed stem and stern for riding the waves – so that is how they portrayed it," said Finkel. "But the ark didn't have to go anywhere, it just had to float, and the instructions are for a type of craft which they knew very well. It's still sometimes used in Iran and Iraq today, a type of round coracle which they would have known exactly how to use to transport animals across a river or floods." Finkel's research throws light on the familiar Mesopotamian story, which became the account in Genesis, in the Old Testament, of Noah and the ark that saved his menagerie from the waters which drowned every other living thing on earth. In his translation, the god who has decided to spare one just man speaks to Atram-Hasis, a Sumerian king who lived before the flood and who is the Noah figure in earlier versions of the ark story. "Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall! Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions And save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same." The tablet goes on to command the use of plaited palm fibre (rope), waterproofed with bitumen (kophar), before the construction of cabins (qufa/coop/kytos) for the people and wild animals. It ends with the dramatic command of Atram-Hasis to the unfortunate boat builder whom he leaves behind to meet his fate, about sealing up the door once everyone else is safely inside: "When I shall have gone into the boat, Caulk the frame of the door!"
How sensible, a woven round boat with rectangular frame interior to divide compartments.
Note that ancient Egyptian measurements were probably based on the sphere. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033895
An Ancient Relation between Units of Length and Volume Based on a Sphere
and this note from Chris Tedder: The sun is depicted as a disc rather than a sphere. For example, the sun held between the horns of Hathor in the Dyn 4 ‘Menkaure triad’, is a disc with a slightly curved surface. (pic: [heritage-key.com] ). If they had understood the sun was spherical rather than a disc, we should at least see a hemisphere between the horns. http://heritage-key.com/egypt/triad-menkaure
The circular form was obviously important to the AE (circular sun, moon, horizon etc.), and I suspect they incorporated it into the design of the sqd 5 1/2 pyramid with a geometrical / mathematical relationship to the square base.
For example, the floor level of the sarcophagus chamber and the level of the floor lines of the shafts as they intersected with the face of the pyramid, can be determined graphically using a circle /square combination:
[sites.google.com]
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Note comparison to my drum-wheel/merkaba theory.
An interesting sidepoint. The Road to Ubar (by Nicholas Clapp) mentions the Arabian tale The City of Brass, where Emir Musa (famed for invading Spain, and later dying at Al Ula (Dedan kingdom) Arabia on the way back to Damascus, traveled to a mysterious brass city, and on the way back, found a coastal mountain which fits the Dophar description (dark skin mountain Hamitic people living in caves wearing leather =matches= Shahra people speaking language of birds not Arabic that herded cattle around caves).
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ancientarcheology/message/455
In the story: "The men talked about how Solomon had had great powers and was able to put jinns in brass bottles. Solomon had poured melted lead on the bottles and sealed them with his signature..." Lastly in the story "Musa was not sympathetic to Talib; he said, "You acted in a dishonorable way!" The group loaded the riches of the city on their camels. Then they closed the gates before leaving. The party rode along the coast and reached a high mountain next to the sea. It had many caves. People lived in them and Emir Musa said, "Who are those people?" Sheikh Samad said, "They are the people who have the bottles."
{Note: Frankinsense was transported at Qana port on the So. Arabian coast by animal-skin boats (bottles??) floated downstream from Dophar mtns. I think 'bottles' was originally 'boats', from putti/pot/boat/hut/punt skin round boats, like those used on Tigris River and India. Perhaps bottle was diminutive for boat eg. bo(a)t-le. Anyway, note similarity of Noah/Atram saying to 'caulk the ark door', and the story of Solomon sealing the bottled jinns/genies. DDeden}
"Only the king of those people could speak Arabic. He came to the group and welcomed Emir Musa, Sheikh Samad, and the others. They learned that the people of that mountain were descended from Ham, who was one of the sons of Noah. The sea was called Al-Karkar. The king gave a banquet for Musa, Samad, and the rest of the party. He presented them with twelve bottles that had been found in the sea. They gave him and his people gifts that included gold and silver. Musa, Samad, and their companions made the trip back to Syria."
Names-Titles for priests/diviners/fortunetellers/spirits:
Hebrew: Cohen/Coan/Kohannim (link to Goshen)
Egyptian: Coptian/Coptician
Japanese: Koshin-to (ancient shin-to) cf Buddhist Zen-do
Hawaiian: Kahuna (spirit priest)
Hopi AmerInd: Kachina (spirit doll/dance)
So. Arabian: Kahin (soothesayer/fortuneteller)
Adam - Atram - Abram
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=26.6666835&lon=37.9069304&z=18&l=0&m=b
http://mideasttour.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?orderby=updated
See story & photos of Chinese Turkestan 4ka Mummies & canoe coffins covered with cowhide accompanied by long (male?) paddles & (female?) punt sticks:
http://blog.hmns.org/tag/xiaohe/
Of the fifteen burial sites uncovered thus far, Xiaohe remains the oldest. The 167 excavated graves yielded more than a thousand artifacts from the period 2000 to 1450 BCE. Victor Mair notes:
There were five levels of burials in coffins in the shape of overturned boats. Live oxen were slaughtered at the site and their still-wet hides were used to wrap the coffins. After they had dried, the hides sealed the coffin tight as a drum, so that not even a speck of sand could enter the burial (Mair 2010, 47).
At the surface, large wooden obelisks were driven into the ground. Those accompanying the tombs of females are pointed in angular fashion, while those over male graves are shaped like paddles. Speculation based on similar grave decorations in northern Europe suggests the possibility that each obelisk is a sexual symbol, perhaps to demonstrate the individual’s virility or fertility.
DDeden
This agrees with my earlier interpretation of round boats preceding longboats.
[Note: see bottom for interesting boat coffins & Urumqi mummies of China Tairm Basin]
The bible mentions rectilinear measurements, but those may have referred to the interior cabins/pens (and perhaps magnified in size and carrying capacity by editors?), not necessarily to the overall circular form.
Note: Noah may have been titled Atram Hasis, from Ad-iram (adramite of Ptolemy/Chatramotitae of Erasthenos/Hadramaut/Ch'Ad/Akkad) while hasis = aziz (Arabic: "highly valued'), related to Oasis & Hasidic (temple well - flowing spring), compare to (at-Ra)Moses (Nile Hebrew), (at)Ra-M-ses (Nile Pharaoh), also the English word Admiral (via Arabic) while Noah relates to Nao-katu/Navigate/boat maker-user.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jan/01/noahs-ark-was-circular/print
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There are dozens of ancient tablets that have been found which describe the flood story but Finkel says this one is the first to describe the vessel's shape. "In all the images ever made people assumed the ark was, in effect, an ocean-going boat, with a pointed stem and stern for riding the waves – so that is how they portrayed it," said Finkel. "But the ark didn't have to go anywhere, it just had to float, and the instructions are for a type of craft which they knew very well. It's still sometimes used in Iran and Iraq today, a type of round coracle which they would have known exactly how to use to transport animals across a river or floods." Finkel's research throws light on the familiar Mesopotamian story, which became the account in Genesis, in the Old Testament, of Noah and the ark that saved his menagerie from the waters which drowned every other living thing on earth. In his translation, the god who has decided to spare one just man speaks to Atram-Hasis, a Sumerian king who lived before the flood and who is the Noah figure in earlier versions of the ark story. "Wall, wall! Reed wall, reed wall! Atram-Hasis, pay heed to my advice, that you may live forever! Destroy your house, build a boat; despise possessions And save life! Draw out the boat that you will built with a circular design; Let its length and breadth be the same." The tablet goes on to command the use of plaited palm fibre (rope), waterproofed with bitumen (kophar), before the construction of cabins (qufa/coop/kytos) for the people and wild animals. It ends with the dramatic command of Atram-Hasis to the unfortunate boat builder whom he leaves behind to meet his fate, about sealing up the door once everyone else is safely inside: "When I shall have gone into the boat, Caulk the frame of the door!"
How sensible, a woven round boat with rectangular frame interior to divide compartments.
Note that ancient Egyptian measurements were probably based on the sphere. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0033895
An Ancient Relation between Units of Length and Volume Based on a Sphere
and this note from Chris Tedder: The sun is depicted as a disc rather than a sphere. For example, the sun held between the horns of Hathor in the Dyn 4 ‘Menkaure triad’, is a disc with a slightly curved surface. (pic: [heritage-key.com] ). If they had understood the sun was spherical rather than a disc, we should at least see a hemisphere between the horns. http://heritage-key.com/egypt/triad-menkaure
The circular form was obviously important to the AE (circular sun, moon, horizon etc.), and I suspect they incorporated it into the design of the sqd 5 1/2 pyramid with a geometrical / mathematical relationship to the square base.
For example, the floor level of the sarcophagus chamber and the level of the floor lines of the shafts as they intersected with the face of the pyramid, can be determined graphically using a circle /square combination:
[sites.google.com]
-
Note comparison to my drum-wheel/merkaba theory.
An interesting sidepoint. The Road to Ubar (by Nicholas Clapp) mentions the Arabian tale The City of Brass, where Emir Musa (famed for invading Spain, and later dying at Al Ula (Dedan kingdom) Arabia on the way back to Damascus, traveled to a mysterious brass city, and on the way back, found a coastal mountain which fits the Dophar description (dark skin mountain Hamitic people living in caves wearing leather =matches= Shahra people speaking language of birds not Arabic that herded cattle around caves).
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ancientarcheology/message/455
In the story: "The men talked about how Solomon had had great powers and was able to put jinns in brass bottles. Solomon had poured melted lead on the bottles and sealed them with his signature..." Lastly in the story "Musa was not sympathetic to Talib; he said, "You acted in a dishonorable way!" The group loaded the riches of the city on their camels. Then they closed the gates before leaving. The party rode along the coast and reached a high mountain next to the sea. It had many caves. People lived in them and Emir Musa said, "Who are those people?" Sheikh Samad said, "They are the people who have the bottles."
{Note: Frankinsense was transported at Qana port on the So. Arabian coast by animal-skin boats (bottles??) floated downstream from Dophar mtns. I think 'bottles' was originally 'boats', from putti/pot/boat/hut/punt skin round boats, like those used on Tigris River and India. Perhaps bottle was diminutive for boat eg. bo(a)t-le. Anyway, note similarity of Noah/Atram saying to 'caulk the ark door', and the story of Solomon sealing the bottled jinns/genies. DDeden}
"Only the king of those people could speak Arabic. He came to the group and welcomed Emir Musa, Sheikh Samad, and the others. They learned that the people of that mountain were descended from Ham, who was one of the sons of Noah. The sea was called Al-Karkar. The king gave a banquet for Musa, Samad, and the rest of the party. He presented them with twelve bottles that had been found in the sea. They gave him and his people gifts that included gold and silver. Musa, Samad, and their companions made the trip back to Syria."
Names-Titles for priests/diviners/fortunetellers/spirits:
Hebrew: Cohen/Coan/Kohannim (link to Goshen)
Egyptian: Coptian/Coptician
Japanese: Koshin-to (ancient shin-to) cf Buddhist Zen-do
Hawaiian: Kahuna (spirit priest)
Hopi AmerInd: Kachina (spirit doll/dance)
So. Arabian: Kahin (soothesayer/fortuneteller)
Adam - Atram - Abram
http://wikimapia.org/#lat=26.6666835&lon=37.9069304&z=18&l=0&m=b
http://mideasttour.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?orderby=updated
See story & photos of Chinese Turkestan 4ka Mummies & canoe coffins covered with cowhide accompanied by long (male?) paddles & (female?) punt sticks:
http://blog.hmns.org/tag/xiaohe/
Of the fifteen burial sites uncovered thus far, Xiaohe remains the oldest. The 167 excavated graves yielded more than a thousand artifacts from the period 2000 to 1450 BCE. Victor Mair notes:
There were five levels of burials in coffins in the shape of overturned boats. Live oxen were slaughtered at the site and their still-wet hides were used to wrap the coffins. After they had dried, the hides sealed the coffin tight as a drum, so that not even a speck of sand could enter the burial (Mair 2010, 47).
At the surface, large wooden obelisks were driven into the ground. Those accompanying the tombs of females are pointed in angular fashion, while those over male graves are shaped like paddles. Speculation based on similar grave decorations in northern Europe suggests the possibility that each obelisk is a sexual symbol, perhaps to demonstrate the individual’s virility or fertility.
DDeden
Wednesday, May 2, 2012
Eurolingua
There seems to have been a tidal effect of European language usage spreading from Turkey/Greece/Akkad to the west:
Chad/C-h-ad-iram-at (various spellings So. Arab)
Akkadian/Akkad-yan-a
Chaldean/Chaldian/(Cha)-Lidyan/Lycean/Luwian/Sloveyan/Danubyan
Etruska(ldya)n (w/est (ak)kad?) (chaldun = chaldyan?)
E(tr)uska(ldu)n (estru-chald-yan? Ishtar/Esther?)
Ruskia
Prus(h)ia
Frisian (Vlaamsk=Flemish, -Nor(d)sk-Swe(de)nsk-Dansk)
Bri(ti)sh(k-an-er?) Bri(di)sk?
-Cohen-Kohannim(Jewish priest/keshina "presence of god" eg. burning bush or beyt-El stone)
(early Hebrew/hapiru/abir were nomad herders with El/Alaat/Eloi lunar months eg. Shaban, then settled among Egypt Nile Solar disk/iStar cults, then wandered in Sinai, then settled in Jordan Valley Canaan and adopted YHWH/jehova (yhovalechem/obalisk/shivalingum = sedentary commonwealth under priest/king/judge)
-Khan?
-Kahin (Arabic soothesayer-priest)
-Kachina (Hopi Amerind spirit dance/doll)
-Kahuna (Hawaiian priest)
-Shinshoku (Japanese Shinto priest)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui (Ainu spirit-god-messenger)
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Euska: nekaz - furrow/track
Etruska: ? - ?
Ruskia: lehka - furrow/track
Prushia: wechsal - animal trail
Frissia.: ? - ?
Bri(t)sh: last - follow furrow/foot form http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=last
Gaelic:
Chad/C-h-ad-iram-at (various spellings So. Arab)
Akkadian/Akkad-yan-a
Chaldean/Chaldian/(Cha)-Lidyan/Lycean/Luwian/Sloveyan/Danubyan
Etruska(ldya)n (w/est (ak)kad?) (chaldun = chaldyan?)
E(tr)uska(ldu)n (estru-chald-yan? Ishtar/Esther?)
Ruskia
Prus(h)ia
Frisian (Vlaamsk=Flemish, -Nor(d)sk-Swe(de)nsk-Dansk)
Bri(ti)sh(k-an-er?) Bri(di)sk?
-Cohen-Kohannim(Jewish priest/keshina "presence of god" eg. burning bush or beyt-El stone)
(early Hebrew/hapiru/abir were nomad herders with El/Alaat/Eloi lunar months eg. Shaban, then settled among Egypt Nile Solar disk/iStar cults, then wandered in Sinai, then settled in Jordan Valley Canaan and adopted YHWH/jehova (yhovalechem/obalisk/shivalingum = sedentary commonwealth under priest/king/judge)
-Khan?
-Kahin (Arabic soothesayer-priest)
-Kachina (Hopi Amerind spirit dance/doll)
-Kahuna (Hawaiian priest)
-Shinshoku (Japanese Shinto priest)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamui (Ainu spirit-god-messenger)
-
Euska: nekaz - furrow/track
Etruska: ? - ?
Ruskia: lehka - furrow/track
Prushia: wechsal - animal trail
Frissia.: ? - ?
Bri(t)sh: last - follow furrow/foot form http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=last
Gaelic:
Ape nests
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/17730971
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/04/16/how-orangutan-engineers-build-safe-and-comfortable-treetop-beds/
[not included: morotopith hanging orthogrady, raptorial mimicry, human dome hut derivation]
Nest-building orangutans demonstrate engineering know-how to produce safe,
comfortable beds
Adam van Casteren cs 2012 PNAS
Orangutans must daily build safe & comfortable nest structures in the
forest canopy,
they do this quickly & effectively, using the branches that surround them.
...
We measured the whole nest compliance & the thickness of the branches
used, and recorded the ways in which the branches were fractured.
Branch samples were also collected from the nests, and subjected to
3-point bending tests to determine their mechanical properties.
We demonstrated
- The center of the nest is more compliant than the edges. This may add
extra comfort & safety to the structure.
- During construction, orangs use the fact that branches only break
half-way across in "green-stick" fracture to weave the main nest
structure. They choose thicker branches with greater rigidity & strength
to build the main structure in this way.
- They then detach thinner branches by following greenstick fracture with
a twisting action to make the lining.
These results suggest that orangutans exhibit a degree of technical
knowledge & choice in the construction of nests.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/notrocketscience/2012/04/16/how-orangutan-engineers-build-safe-and-comfortable-treetop-beds/
[not included: morotopith hanging orthogrady, raptorial mimicry, human dome hut derivation]
Nest-building orangutans demonstrate engineering know-how to produce safe,
comfortable beds
Adam van Casteren cs 2012 PNAS
Orangutans must daily build safe & comfortable nest structures in the
forest canopy,
they do this quickly & effectively, using the branches that surround them.
...
We measured the whole nest compliance & the thickness of the branches
used, and recorded the ways in which the branches were fractured.
Branch samples were also collected from the nests, and subjected to
3-point bending tests to determine their mechanical properties.
We demonstrated
- The center of the nest is more compliant than the edges. This may add
extra comfort & safety to the structure.
- During construction, orangs use the fact that branches only break
half-way across in "green-stick" fracture to weave the main nest
structure. They choose thicker branches with greater rigidity & strength
to build the main structure in this way.
- They then detach thinner branches by following greenstick fracture with
a twisting action to make the lining.
These results suggest that orangutans exhibit a degree of technical
knowledge & choice in the construction of nests.
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